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1. Barrin+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-16 16:51:38
>Come on! You don't get to the place he got to by accident.

You can literally become president of the US by accident these days. SBF self-reported to a random journalist one day after all hell broke lose with messages so incriminating the reporter had to confirm that it was a real conversation.

Half of the American elite class voluntarily sat on the board of a bogus company just because the woman running it was attractive and wore black turtlenecks. The sad reality is that these people aren't ruthless operators, they're just marginally less clueless than the people who got them into their positions

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2. rqtwte+MC[view] [source] 2023-05-16 19:55:39
>>Barrin+(OP)
"You can literally become president of the US by accident these days."

Who became president by accident? You may not like them personally or their politics , but I am not aware of any president that didn't put enormous amounts of work and effort over years into becoming president.

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3. rurp+mG[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-16 20:12:56
>>rqtwte+MC
Trump spent a great deal of time during the 2016 campaign setting up projects to cash in on a loss (like a new tv station). This very little sign that he spent time preparing to actually win and serve as president. It wasn't really an outlandish idea either, most presidential candidates these days do it primarily to raise a profile they can cash in on via punditry, books, etc.
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4. mrangl+K81[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-16 23:00:45
>>rurp+mG
I wouldn't call Trump's win an accident. He spoke passionately to the core political agenda of the GOP voter base: illegal immigration. Which the Neocons willfully ignored, or otherwise under-served, for decades. That's not something that one does if they aren't trying to win.
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5. rqtwte+EX3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-17 19:04:57
>>rurp+mG
Presidential candidates put an enormous effort into winning the campaign. I agree that they don’t spend much time thinking about actual policy. Calling Trump’s win an accident is dangerous. Realistically he put in the work Clinton didn’t because she was too arrogant.
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