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1. pandem+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-12 15:28:54
This is an utterly bizarre take. Just because he didn't hurt anyone doesn't mean he couldn't have. He could have started a wildfire, his plane could have crashed into hikers, he could have hurt himself and required a publicly funded rescue effort. It's like you're trying to argue that we shouldn't have rule of law??? This kind of prosecution is in place to create a disincentive to doing things that could threaten life, public property, etc.

And anyway, fines only penalize poor people. Someone who can afford to AIRLIFT A PLANE and disassemble it would not be disincentivized by a fine.

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2. byyyy+b4[view] [source] 2023-05-12 15:46:58
>>pandem+(OP)
Should someone who runs a car into an empty wall be charged with jail time? No.

It's not bizarre at all. The bizarre part here is your stringing of logic to try to transform this into a crime related to murder.

First off he crashed the plane deliberately into empty forest. There's no hikers in the place he crashed it, he knows that.

Second small planes or cars don't explode in a ball of flames when they crash. That's just movie magic. What actually happens is the car or plane becomes metal debris. That's it. A fire and a crashed car or small plane are completely orthogonal concepts. Might as well arrest people who make bouncing balls because the bouncing ball might accidentally smack the trigger of a gun and kill someone.

What's bizarre here is your post says I'm trying to completely eliminate rule of law when I never said that. Why lie straight to my face? What's the point? It's bizarre. You're the one twisting the rationale to fit your convenient narrative. Please be more logical with your reasoning.

The punishment should fit the crime. A huge fine and revoke the pilots license. That's it. Ruining his life with jail time does not fit the crime at all. If he's rich, then increase the fine... that simple.

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3. ChoGGi+Z81[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-12 20:34:17
>>byyyy+b4
> First off he crashed the plane deliberately into empty forest. There's no hikers in the place he crashed it, he knows that.

How?

He's in trouble for covering up, not so much what he did.

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4. byyyy+XL1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-13 01:05:46
>>ChoGGi+Z81
Agreed he should be in trouble for that. But probably not jailtime.
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5. pvalde+3u3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-13 18:07:42
>>byyyy+b4
> Should someone who runs a car into an empty wall be charged with jail time?

Could be. This depends a lot on the owner of the wall

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6. byyyy+Sb4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-13 23:09:28
>>pvalde+3u3
Wall is undamaged. Car is damaged. In that case nothing happens. (In CA, where this took place)
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