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1. ninken+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-03 11:28:48
The problem is that .com is a de facto US TLD… as an American it doesn’t strike me as odd that a .com site is implicitly USA centric any more than a US news channel or US newspaper.

(Yes I know .us exists but it’s not as common as .com)

If it was newsminimalist.co.uk I don’t think anyone would really complain that it’s UK-specific news, right?

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2. wohfab+l2[view] [source] 2023-05-03 11:43:25
>>ninken+(OP)
Obviously it doesn't strike you as odd as an American.

I'd say, .com is just the default. If you go location/topic specific, you go with another TLD.

To the 130 million (domainnamestat.com) domains, registered in the US, there are like 500 million domains, registered somewhere else. I couldn't find any numbers for how many of those are .com and how many aren't, but you cannot just ignore those. Just because most domains registered in the US are .com domains, doesn't make .com a US domain. That's a really egocentric point of view.

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3. lawn+98[view] [source] 2023-05-03 12:24:10
>>ninken+(OP)
No, .com isn't implicitly USA centric, it's just the internet default. You mention .us yourself but then dismiss it because reasons.

Your American bias is just shining through, where of course you're not surprised.

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4. nunuvi+Uj[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-03 13:40:05
>>lawn+98
> .com isn't implicitly USA centric, it's just the internet default

Those both mean the exact same thing in this context. Genuinely interesting that you're not the only person who understood it a different way and suggested "default" instead. Neither would stand up to such pedantic scrutiny if you want to argue that one of them is wrong.

In such a short sentence about a topic that everyone here surely knows about, the words only reference the relevant aspect of the underlying information. You can't know if they have the wrong or right view without more information.

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5. nunuvi+xm[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-03 13:52:43
>>wohfab+l2
> I'd say, .com is just the default

That means the exact same thing in this context. Genuinely interesting that you're not the only person who understood it a different way and suggested "default" instead. Neither would stand up to such pedantic scrutiny if you want to argue that one of them is wrong.

In such a short sentence about a topic that everyone here surely knows about, the words only reference the relevant aspect of the underlying information. You can't know if they have the wrong or right view without more information.

6. yakhin+YD[view] [source] 2023-05-03 15:22:59
>>ninken+(OP)
I think it's because I only analyze news in English currently. I was thinking of adding other languages to the evaluation and ask GPT to translate them. It should at least partially fix the US bias.
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7. ninken+JJ[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-03 15:50:29
>>lawn+98

    $ whois com.
    % IANA WHOIS server
    % for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org
    % This query returned 1 object

    domain:       COM

    organisation: VeriSign Global Registry Services
    address:      12061 Bluemont Way
    address:      Reston VA 20190
    address:      United States of America (the)

It absolutely is a US tld, run by a US corporation.

DNS was originally a DARPA project, and was implicitly US focused from the very beginning of the internet, because it was a US project. ".com" carries that legacy because it predates the concept of country-specific TLD's.

A similar idea exists in reddit: /r/news is very US-focused, even though it's not called "US news". Since Reddit is an American site with an (at least initially) predominantly American audience, it's not surprising at all that things are American-biased by default unless explicitly named accordingly.

If we were all using Minitel instead of The Internet, we would have similar bias where services would be biased towards France unless shown otherwise, because Minitel was a French technology.

The point is, it's not explicitly a problem that somebody puts up a website and it's US-centric. Nobody owes the world an international version of whatever project they want to make, and you don't need to get upset that they only bother to cater to a US audience.

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8. ninken+oP[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-03 16:16:28
>>wohfab+l2
.com is a US domain though. It's run by a US corporation (Verisign). Check whois.

That said corporation lets non-US entities buy domain names doesn't change this fact.

Similarly, if a site with a .tv address published articles explicitly about Tuvalu, in the Tuvaluan language, you probably wouldn't complain about a Tuvaluan bias, right? After all, it's a Tuvaluan TLD. The fact that lots of companies around the world use .tv addresses for other reasons that have nothing to do with Tuvalu, doesn't change the fact that it's a Tuvaluan TLD.

If you want more information on this, the intro in the Wikipedia article on .com is quite informative: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.com ... particularly:

> The domain was originally administered by the United States Department of Defense, but is today operated by Verisign, and remains under ultimate jurisdiction of U.S. law.[2][3][4] Additionally, as the Internet was invented in the United States, most American businesses and enterprises have used the .com domain instead of a more U.S.-specific .us.

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9. detaro+pQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-03 16:21:59
>>ninken+oP
Verisign is contracted to run .com

.tv addresses are different, because ccTLDs are explicitly tied to countries (hence "ccTLD"). generic TLDs (gTLDs) like .com are not.

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10. ninken+TS[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-03 16:33:44
>>detaro+pQ
Huh? Contracted by who? DARPA originally invented the internet and DNS in the first place (it was originally an American project) and gave over control over .com to Network Solutions which was eventually bought by Verisign. What do you mean "contracted to run"?

.com registrations are ultimately under US jurisdiction. It's what happens when you have a name system that was originally intended for one country's project (The Internet) and said project ended up becoming internationally used. The original TLD's are grandfathered in even after we got country-specific ones.

Nobody complains that .mil is US-centric either. .mil isn't a ccTLD but of course it means US military.

.com is a very popular TLD used all over the world. It doesn't make it non-American. Just as .tv is also very popular outside of Tuvalu, it doesn't make it non-Tuvaluan.

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