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1. CatWCh+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-03-01 11:30:31
I'm curious as to what you mean by scorched Earth. Literally the fact that we are burning up our atmosphere, or something else? That said, I'll root for nature batting last before I root for the hellscape people unleash for economic incentives.

What needs to be understood is that this sort of technology is not an equalizer, regardless of the PR behind having your own personal Einstein/secretary at your beck and call. You can look at the state of modern computing sans AI to see this is true: many people with desktops are using Microsoft, Apple, or Google OSes, which become more and more restrictive as time goes on, despite the capabilities of such computers increasing regularly.

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2. colleg+ki[view] [source] 2023-03-01 13:46:35
>>CatWCh+(OP)
> become more and more restrictive as time goes on, despite the capabilities of such computers increasing regularly

True, and it is to be expected that existing interests will seek to integrate any new tricks into the old patterns

The question is to what extend this can go on without imploding. How big the mismatch between what you could do with a mobile or a desktop or a decentralized cluster of millions of computers and what you actually do before some random bug in a typewriter short-circuits the entire system.

People are banking on widespread digital transformation as one of the few major economic growth drivers in an otherwise exhausted opportunity landscape - the literally scorched Earth. I fail to see, though, how this regeneration could possibly be achieved with parasitic business models and behaviors. We should not think just about individuals or "consumers", as in this role we are effectively disenfranchised, but our role in all sorts of private and public organizations that collectively have much more political and economic weight than "big tech".

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3. CatWCh+HA[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-03-01 15:32:39
>>colleg+ki
"Our scientific power outmatches our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." - MLK

I fully agree. It's been said to death that AI will radically transform everything about the world. In the first case, the implicit assumption is everything except how the economy works at a fundamental level, which doesn't really jive with all the other things it's expected to transform.

In the second case, AI control problem aside, we have a human control problem that none of our technological advancements have ever solved, and in fact only exacerbated. Billionaires can hoard wealth in ways and places normal people can't; despite all the billions lying around and plenty of real problems to solve (hunger, sanitation, the death of the biosphere, the toxic "externalities" of the economy), vanity projects, personal philanthropies, and moar tech is seen as the solution, always.

I don't trust machines to shape people for the better when the last decade has shown just how Big Tech will co-opt our psychology for money. We need to rethink if progress for progress' sake is worth the carnage it causes, if eternal unchecked ambition is psychologically pathogenic, and if anything can build a "better world" when promises of ample leisure have rung hollow since the industrial revolution.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place, I have to root for severe climate disruption to put a hard limit on the insanities of industry before they drive us over a completely different kind of cliff.

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