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Do you know of any open source projects with the approximately $5 million it takes to train GPT3? Do you think the AI scientists who invented the underlying techniques would do so without being paid? No, Google and others paid for these people's work. Even if OpenAI was open source and still a non-profit, its funding would come from the profit generated by corporations and the wealth of individuals who became rich through capitalism. How do you think Sam Altman, Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk were in a position to found OpenAI in the first place? For good or for bad, capitalism is the reason this stuff exists.

>>Veen+(OP)
Stable Diffusion is a project like that. It cost millions to develop it. It is free, open source and can be run locally.

>>zirgs+h2
Makes you wonder where's the catch, doesn't it?

>>Veen+(OP)
Most crypto projects? (Half /s...)

But seriously, the buzz around ChatGPT is huge. Anyone could step in with a crowdfunding campaign to raise that if they promised the right things.

>>zirgs+h2
Are you sure? According to Wikipedia it's "source available"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_Diffusion

It seems to come with a laundry list of vague restrictions

>>Veen+(OP)
> Even if OpenAI was open source and still a non-profit, its funding would come from the profit generated by corporations and the wealth of individuals who became rich through capitalism

Sounds to me like you're describing a system that fatally tethers individuals to profit motive, and technological advancement to the good will of a few, rather than something that magically allows for great projects to exist.

>>Veen+(OP)
>> Do you know of any open source projects with the approximately $5 million it takes to train GPT3?

Two things. 1) research into smaller more efficient models and 2) hardware prices will come down for a bit longer. So longer term this kind of thing should be free.

It's common for companies to be first at complex things because the coordinated effort or cost involved, and later that becomes more feasible and cheap or free options become possible. I'm all for inventors/companies getting paid for new developments, but I'm also not terribly excited for them to keep innovation locked up and charge rent on it for eternity. This works out in most cases at varying pace, but not always.

>>Veen+(OP)
>How do you think Sam Altman, Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk were in a position to found OpenAI in the first place?

Wage theft, embezzlement of public funds, socially destructive practices, immoral and downright dangerous behaviors, lies and being children of already wealthy and well connected individuals ?

Capitalism didn't give you OpenAI. Money and talented people working on it gave you OpenAI (hint: none of the people you listed did any work). Whether it comes from sociopath n°2354 as closed source, or a well funded public institution as open research (which, you know, we could have funded if the previously listed sociopaths paid taxes and contributed to society), people being paid did the work.

>>avian+z3
Where's the catch in Linux?

>>ohgodp+Od
You should probably be little careful about accusing named individuals of embezzlement.

>>Veen+hs
It's absurdly funny to me that out of all the list of actually harmful things that they're doing, you choose to focus on the one that is the most socially accepted.

And no, I'll keep that comment there with names, thanks.