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1. xupybd+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-02-19 03:39:10
As someone who is fat and unhealthy I don't think it is. You're not rejecting me to tell me I need to lose some weight, you're suggesting you care about my well being.

I don't understand the modern idea that you must celebrate every part of a person to love them.

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2. hugh-a+Fg[view] [source] 2023-02-19 06:38:46
>>xupybd+(OP)
I suspect it went something like this: There were studies into shaming of overweight individuals concluded it was a poor method for weight loss. This mutated into the idea that anti-shaming must be good for health and the idea that we should not implicitly shame fat people in general.

In general, I suspect these kinds of cultural phenomena generally begin by fairly mundane scientific observations being processed through a game of telephone within academia.

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3. Izkata+Yt[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 09:34:41
>>hugh-a+Fg
It combined with a corruption of HAES: Originally it was "Health At Every Size", as in, an encouraging message that you can always improve your health no matter how big you are (which a lot of people need because when you start exercising you can end up gaining weight before losing anything, because you're building muscle faster than you're losing fat). But at some point it became understood as "Healthy At Every Size" which people took to mean your size doesn't impact your health.
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4. wcerfg+AD[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 11:08:52
>>hugh-a+Fg
Shaming is bad for health, there is a phenomena called minority stress https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10865-019-00120-6
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5. xupybd+fk2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 23:33:49
>>wcerfg+AD
Yes but not all criticism is shaming. There is tremendous value in learning how to take negative feedback without letting it get you down. It's not easy but it's valuable.

I'm surprised in the direction we've headed. Instead of encouraging people to develop the ability to give and receive constructive criticism we've demonized it.

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