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1. defros+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-02-19 03:34:44
He had four or five confirmed kills with no indication that the German pilots of the Junkers Ju 88s over Greece were Nazis.

He also killed at least one Vichy French Air Force pilot .. again there's no indication whether that pilot (or pilots) were Nazis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roald_Dahl#Fighter_pilot

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2. mardif+f7[view] [source] 2023-02-19 04:40:42
>>defros+(OP)
This is just a weird, though pretty common nitpick, but I'll bite. The pilots he downed were actively fighting for a nazi state. They might have not been nazis themselves, but they were still fighting to spread nazi ideology. It wouldn't matter even if literally no german pilots were actually ideologically nazis, if they were still flying planes and combat missions in hopes of a victory for their side (nazi germany).
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3. defros+48[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 04:49:23
>>mardif+f7
> They might have not been nazis themselves ...

Perhaps surprisingly large numbers of the military did not support the Nazi ideals.

High ranking members of the military failed to assisinate Hitler several times.

The specific "nitpick" is that the pilot and crew were very likely to not be actual literal Nazis.

That's just history .. the point of current interest now is the question of whether niche ideologies can take over a state and take it to war on the global stage.

4. zirgs+Ts[view] [source] 2023-02-19 09:12:36
>>defros+(OP)
Every single German soldier who kept fighting ensured that death camps stayed open for longer. Every single piece of land that they managed to capture was annexed to the Nazi state and the SS could do their dirty work there. It doesn't really matter what those pilots thought themselves. My country is almost Judenfrei now, because of those German soldiers.
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5. defros+QC[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 10:58:18
>>zirgs+Ts
Sure.

Nazi ideals are bad, we can agree.

WWII is especially complex and resistes being reduced to black and white simplistics because of the same kinds of complications that exist today.

Back in the day the UK Royal Family was even more closely tied to their German cousins, many political groups in the UK were sympathetic to Nazi ideals even if opposed to the war expansion .. and the same was true for the USofA.

But, returning to the original point, I see no evidence that Dahl killed literal actual Nazi's.

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