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1. jasonh+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-02-19 01:49:37
To be clear, The Witches is full of obviously intentional antisemitic tropes: https://www.heyalma.com/is-roald-dahls-the-witches-antisemit...
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2. anonre+Ra[view] [source] 2023-02-19 03:22:23
>>jasonh+(OP)
I have a hard time believing you are serious. They hallucinated a bunch of context into it that fits any story about secret societies.
3. mandma+Sb[view] [source] 2023-02-19 03:31:59
>>jasonh+(OP)
No, it isn't. And that article is sheer drivel. On a very questionable site.

Dahl "justified the Holocaust"? He killed Nazis, for crying out loud.

Pointing out that Jewish people are heavily involved in the media isn't inherently anti-semitic. Creating a fictional conspiracy where a group controls the media isn't inherently anti-semitic either.

Witches and goblins have had long noses for ever. Describing them isn't antisemitic.

Jews aren't all women. Jews don't all wear wigs. Jews aren't known for turning English children into mice. The list of differences is long.

Am I really having to point all this out to a grown adult?

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4. Michae+ig[view] [source] 2023-02-19 04:11:56
>>jasonh+(OP)
also the image of the Oompa Loompa in 'charlie and the chocolate factory' can also be interpreted as racist. The NAACP launched a protest, back in 1971 - at a time when racist attitudes were much more common. https://daily.jstor.org/roald-dahls-anti-black-racism/

The movie paints them with orange colored skin, no one was protesting that edition of the original text.

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5. Michae+ml[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 04:59:14
>>mandma+Sb
> pointing out that Jewish people are heavily involved in the media isn't inherently anti-semitic

'Jews are controlling the media' isn't antisemitic? 'der Stuermer' was depicting caricature Jews with long noses just for the fun of it? And yes, fictional conspiracies were a big deal in antisemitic propaganda - 'the protocols of the elders of zion' is just an example.

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6. oska+9p[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 05:37:44
>>Michae+ml
You're twisting the words of the person you replied to - you've changed 'heavily involved' to 'controlling'.

And regarding The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The whole point of that book is that it was passed off as not being fictional. It was fraudulently presented as a real text.

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7. Michae+7q[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 05:50:16
>>oska+9p
Roald Dahl, as quoted in the article (I am assuming that we are talking about Roald Dahl)

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/dec/06/roald-dahl-fam...

“It’s the same old thing: we all know about Jews and the rest of it. There aren’t any non-Jewish publishers anywhere, they control the media – jolly clever thing to do – that’s why the president of the United States has to sell all this stuff to Israel.”

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8. oska+oq[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 05:56:13
>>Michae+7q
Ok, I appreciate where you were coming from now, my apologies. Yes, Dahl explicitly talked about Jews controlling the media (although not in his fiction). So yes, I was wrong to jump in on this point.
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9. Uhhrrr+mr[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 06:08:06
>>Michae+ml
But much of the Protocols was taken from an anti-Napoleon III tract which doesn't mention Jews at all: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dialogue_in_Hell_Between...

So just talking about conspiracies isn't a good indicator of anti-Semitism.

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10. roboca+KA[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 08:11:50
>>Michae+ig
Dahl answered that criticism, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34853399
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