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1. mc32+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-02-19 01:09:43
People (ok, old school liberals -like the Clintons- as well as libertarians and other freedom loving classes) used to make fun of sects and other religious minorities with uhh, different sensibilities who were too prudish or uptight for their alternative censored versions of popular works --well, the joke's on us!

The speed at which history is being colonized to retroactively establish a new reality is pretty astounding. Elements who usually are loosely in the same camp are rushing over each other and throwing each other under the bus in order to establish moral superiority over the new barbarians.

To be clear, I'm not espousing the use of crass language; I however, would like to leave it to people to have the ability to make that choice themselves to be civilizer or vulgar rather than impose it upon them as some virtue.

IIRC, our current commander-in-chief called someone whose question displeased him "fats". Of course Johnson is the all-time winner, but what was another era.

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2. thenew+16[view] [source] 2023-02-19 02:02:23
>>mc32+(OP)
This reminds me of Kavafy's poem.

Waiting for the Barbarians

https://youtu.be/Ajy55VtGbzY

3. h2odra+f6[view] [source] 2023-02-19 02:04:11
>>mc32+(OP)
> I'm not espousing the use of crass language

Fucking A, bro.

4. wyager+P7[view] [source] 2023-02-19 02:16:25
>>mc32+(OP)
> old school liberals -like the Clintons-

Is this a joke? Or are actual "old school liberals" so "old school" now that liberals by the ten-year-old definition count as "old school"?

"Old school liberals" are people like Friedman and Mises, not the Clintons.

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5. mc32+O9[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 02:32:57
>>wyager+P7
It should have read “including”. One can’t rely on previous icons as examples as they are being passed at best as irrelevant and at worst as being echoes of a feudal past.

In any case, it’s a very surprising quick turn of events. Even Orwell the prototypical anti-fascist is ensnared. Perhaps denouncement awaits.

6. smaude+pa[view] [source] 2023-02-19 02:37:46
>>mc32+(OP)
There is a time and place for both crass language and flowery language. You would get severely penalized for speaking in "high english" in some places, just as you would not (usually) want to cuss out everyone in your boardroom meeting.
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7. mc32+Ab[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 02:45:13
>>smaude+pa
No question. But let the people use what they want as is accepted within their circles and circumstances --but the current revisionism is surprising.
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8. jacque+Ec[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-19 02:55:06
>>smaude+pa
> just as you would not (usually) want to cuss out everyone in your boardroom meeting.

Good you put that usually in there. It can be surprisingly effective when used sparingly.

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