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1. fithis+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-02-09 08:09:36
Google is there to put tolls. This is a parasitic model by definition.

Search should be democratized by governments. It is central and should be for everybody. No control.

replies(3): >>azangr+22 >>linux-+X2 >>sw104+Kq
2. azangr+22[view] [source] 2023-02-09 08:27:12
>>fithis+(OP)
> Search should be democratized by governments. It is central and should be for everybody. No control.

I am confused. Are you suggesting that governments should nationalize the search part of Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, Yahoo, etc.? Or that they should build their own high-quality search engines? And what do we do until they have?

> No control.

Why do you think governments wouldn't control search engines if they were responsible for providing them?

> It is central and should be for everybody

How is the current model (Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, Yahoo, etc.) not for everybody?

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3. linux-+X2[view] [source] 2023-02-09 08:37:27
>>fithis+(OP)
Nobody prevents government(s) from creating a search engine. Actually nobody stops anyone from creating a search engine. Also nobody stops anybody from using another search engine. The internet is the most level playing field and is more competitive than any other industry. Nowhere else is it as easy to create something new as a business and to switch services as a customer. If anything it's the customers fault and by extension a lack of education. So if you want to blame government then blame it for keeping its people dumb. And there you actually have a point.
4. sw104+Kq[view] [source] 2023-02-09 12:03:56
>>fithis+(OP)
Ah yes.

Search provided by the Russian government to the Russian people, Chinese government to the Chinese people, British government to the British people, X government to the X people..

What could go wrong?

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5. jocaal+S61[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-09 15:21:56
>>azangr+22
> Or that they should build their own high-quality search engines?

That may already be happening https://openwebsearch.eu/

The role of a government in a capatilistic society is to basically do the stuff that isn't profitable for corporations to do without exploiting the population. For example build roads, because if a corporation did that there would be tolls everywhere and it would be hard for poor people to improve their living standards if they couldn't economically move around. That seems to have happened on the internet. The internet is in the commons and everyone expects it to be free, the problem is that the infrastructure to navigate it was built by corporations and now we have to pay tolls through ads and trackers

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6. fithis+UXt[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-17 16:02:39
>>azangr+22
Nationalize or extinguish by creating their own.
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