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1. coffee+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-02-08 23:37:43
It’s not out of the realm of possibility but that statement is hardly an admission of future sabotage. I would imagine the US has more tools than deep sea bombing to convince their allies. Very high risk operation
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2. slante+B[view] [source] 2023-02-08 23:40:32
>>coffee+(OP)
Sure, a threat is not an admission of guilt. But I think most people were unaware of this statement, and how aggressive the US' posture towards the pipeline was, which is important context for this article.
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3. coffee+Hb[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-09 00:44:41
>>slante+B
They must have not been paying attention. Trump was very vocal against it and was laughed at by the genius German technocrats. The Obama admin was also against it
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4. vinter+mc1[view] [source] 2023-02-09 10:24:18
>>coffee+(OP)
I believe the US often takes stupid risks, despite having better options.

This is not an indictment of the US, it's just an assessment based on my own and other's extensive experiences with large, hierarchical organizations.

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5. miguel+4c3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-09 19:18:01
>>coffee+Hb
More likely they were listening, but continued to pursue the path that was in Germany’s national interest. German voters do not care about helping maintain US hegemony; they care about economic stability and energy security. It will be interesting to see what happens in German domestic politics as more evidence emerges that its supposed ally carried out industrial sabotage against it. The rest of Europe’s voters will also take note.
6. VagueM+rg4[view] [source] 2023-02-10 00:16:58
>>coffee+(OP)
> Very high risk operation

I'm not sure what would make it so high risk. The truth could easily be castigated and maligned as "conspiracy theory," a dismissal that most people in the Western countries will readily accept. The only people with the resources to investigate and find hard evidence would either be in on it (Western/NATO allies) or easily written off as pushing lies and propaganda (the Russians).

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