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1. MilaM+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-02-08 20:52:47
As a German citizen let me tell you, hardly anyone here is angry that the pipelines are gone. No one is even talking about Nord Stream anymore. When Gazprom stopped the gas flows in July 2022, it was abundandly clear, that the deliveries would not resume in the foreseable future. In a way, blowing up the pipelines made things easier, because the government and the industry could fully focus on reorganizing energy procurement, without being needlessly entangled in hypothetical discussions about what could have been. Even if Russia wanted to resume selling gas to Western Europe sometime in the future, there is still plenty of capacity in the remaining pipelines through Belarus and Poland, as well as Ukraine. They are fully operational and currently either not used at all (Yamal pipeline), or operating at a very low capacity (Transgas).
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2. 0xDEF+c7[view] [source] 2023-02-08 21:21:00
>>MilaM+(OP)
I am Danish. Half the country was making fart jokes about the leak. Nobody is missing the Nord Stream pipelines.
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3. brmgb+yP1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-09 10:22:52
>>0xDEF+c7
I'm French and I'm missing the Nord Stream pipelines. We need all the supply lanes we can get even if our neighbours are untrustworthy.

Now we have to rely on the US and there is nothing worse than relying on the US. Europe just showed once again it failed to learn anything from the Suez crisis. The US should never be trusted. They are not a reliable and only care about themselves.

Europe has been mismanaging its relationship with the BRIC since the end of the Cold War. We are too dependent on NATO. Not that there is much to expect from the EU. Every addition since 1995 has only weakened it.

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4. 0xDEF+xR1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-09 10:40:19
>>brmgb+yP1
Europe couldn't even stop Little Russia (Serbia) from genociding Bonsian Muslims and Kosovo-Albanians until the US-led NATO intervention had to put a stop to it twice.

Also Norway can replace a lot of the Russian gas supplies.

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5. brmgb+ta2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-02-09 12:57:34
>>0xDEF+xR1
If your justification of NATO is their entirely illigetimate and overall worthless intervention in Kosovo, I don't think we will ever see eye to eye. The bombings were highly destructive and didn't solve anything. The war stopped when Russia urged Milošević to surrender after a lot of diplomatic negotiations.
6. BlueTe+R05[view] [source] 2023-02-10 01:01:42
>>MilaM+(OP)
You have first heard it here folks, a pseudonymous source confirming that it was the Germans that blew up the pipelines !

(just kidding :p)

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