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Safari is not competing. It only runs on MacOS and iOS. It doesn't compete on Linux, Windows or Android.

- It comes last out of the three major browser engines in feature support. - It has the most number of bugs out of the three engines. - It has the worst support for Web Apps.

Apple has deprived the Safari/Webkit team of funding for the past decade.

Safari places no competitive pressure on chrome, and has deprived Mozilla and thus Firefox of 100's of millions of dollars in search engine revenue. Apple has done untold damage to the web and this needs to be fixed.

>>mtomwe+(OP)
Firefox is almost no where to be found and hardly has anything to bring to fight against Chrome [0]. In fact, Mozilla is on life support with Google's money with the Mozilla CEO being the one laughing all the way to the bank as Firefox continues to be irrelevant.

Safari (WebKit) is the only one competing against the Chrome ecosystem, especially on mobile devices market. The EU Digital Markets Act will just declare Chrome the winner and will increase Chrome's dominance and will make Mozilla even more irrelevant.

[0] https://gs.statcounter.com/

>>mtomwe+(OP)
The point is that, even with all those flaws, developers have to target at least two browsers instead of just building for Chrome.

The force keeping Safari afloat is not the one keeping Firefox down, the problem is that Firefox has nothing to drive up its adoption. Telling people that they're "free" to use Firefox and see as the web is swallowed whole by Google with Chrome, like MS did with IE, is missing the point so badly.

>>forget+C7
You're talking about lack of competition while defending corporate mandated lack of competition and undermining of the web. That's not how this works.

>>izacus+Ed
Unless you think of another solution, when the "it" is the web, we have nothing else that works, because antitrust regulators won't come down hard enough on Google for leveraging its dominant position in search and mail to corner the browser market, and use it as an ad delivery platform.

Sent from my Firefox install.

>>mtomwe+(OP)
Running on Windows/Linux/Android fundamentally does not matter. Market share does.

>>mtomwe+(OP)
Incorrect, Safari leads the pack on new feature support.