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1. xkcd19+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-01-24 11:28:34
Safari is way faster than Chrome on iOS
replies(3): >>knolan+a2 >>sccxy+p2 >>ezfe+jn
2. knolan+a2[view] [source] 2023-01-24 11:47:25
>>xkcd19+(OP)
Chrome on iOS is just a skin on top of WebKit.
replies(1): >>parasu+Qk
3. sccxy+p2[view] [source] 2023-01-24 11:50:16
>>xkcd19+(OP)
Chrome on iOS is Safari but with Chrome skin.

Apple does not allow other browser engines or does not even allow most Safari features to other browsers...

replies(1): >>parasu+Ck
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4. parasu+Ck[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-24 13:57:19
>>sccxy+p2
Chrome and Firefox may use WebKit but have very different looks and feels and some different functionality. They’re not just “skins”.
replies(2): >>noblea+yv >>sccxy+DX1
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5. parasu+Qk[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-24 13:58:09
>>knolan+a2
Try to build a web browser with WebKit. I assure you it’s a lot more work than a skin.
replies(1): >>postal+JF
6. ezfe+jn[view] [source] 2023-01-24 14:10:23
>>xkcd19+(OP)
See, if you had said that Safari was way faster than Chrome on macOS, you would have an argument...
replies(1): >>xkcd19+ey
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7. noblea+yv[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-24 14:49:59
>>parasu+Ck
They use a Cocoa feature called [WkWebView] (https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/wkwebview) which is an embedded webkit browser. Any functionality that differs from Safari is not part of the actual "browser". It's just "skin" on top of it. (Bookmark syncing, etc)
replies(1): >>parasu+ZG4
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8. xkcd19+ey[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-24 15:03:24
>>ezfe+jn
Y just wait until I get 500rep Ive ur name now :p

Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34501173#34504508

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9. postal+JF[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-24 15:37:16
>>parasu+Qk
Can you make webkit behave like chrome or firefox behaves on android or desktop?
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10. sccxy+DX1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-24 20:29:53
>>parasu+Ck
Not really different. They even share bugs.

If Safari team messes up their rendering engine, then iOS update, and it is broken for every iOS browser...

replies(1): >>parasu+rL5
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11. parasu+ZG4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-25 16:30:08
>>noblea+yv
WkWebView is a web renderer and partial navigator, it's not a browser.

My point is that people are really stretching the term "skin". Bookmark syncing, tab & window management, history management, security management etc. all are features of a browser, and they have a major impact on the UX of that browser. They are WHY there are still users of Firefox or Chrome on iOS! They're not "skin" features, which typically imply minor look & feel related items.

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12. parasu+rL5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-25 21:28:15
>>sccxy+DX1
Do you use any of them regularly? I do. They're very different UX-wise.

My point is that users don't really care about the common rendering engine. It doesn't have much impact on the day to day UX.

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