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1. dymk+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-01-14 14:58:21
What court case set the president that you can’t train a neural network on publicly posted movies and audio?
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2. Xelyne+Ob[view] [source] 2023-01-14 16:28:52
>>dymk+(OP)
I'd assume the precedent would be about sharing encoder data, which would be covered in bittorrent cases.

"Training a neural network" is an implementation detail. These companies accessed millions of copyrighted works, encoded them such that the copyright was unenforcable, then sell the output of that transformation.

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3. dymk+Tc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-14 16:37:28
>>Xelyne+Ob
Not being able to reproduce the inputs (each image is contributing single bytes to the neural network) is relevant. Torrent files are a means to exactly reproduce their inputs. Diffusion models are trained to not reproduce their inputs, nor do they have the means to.
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