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1. visarg+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-01-14 08:35:39
Not large parts of open source projects. It was one function that was pretty well known and replicated. The author prompted with a part of the code, and the model finished the rest including the original comments.

There are two issues here

- the model needs to be carefully prompted (goaded) into copyright violation, so it is instigated to do it by excessive quoting from the original

- the replicated codes are usually boilerplate, common approaches or "famous" examples from books; in other words they are examples that appear in multiple places in the training set as opposed to just once

Do generic codes, boilerplate and API calls deserve protection? Maybe the famous examples do, but not every replicated code does.

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2. jeroen+YS[view] [source] 2023-01-14 17:12:29
>>visarg+(OP)
Copilot didn't just spit out the fast inverse square root, it spat out someone's entire "about" page in HTML, name and all. This was just some guy's blog, not a commonly replicated algorithm from a book.

Furthermore, copyright infringement doesn't stop being copyright infringement if you do it based on someone else's copyright infringement. Just become someone else decided to rip the contents of a CD and upload it to a website doesn't mean I'm now allowed to download it from that website again.

Copyright law does include an originality floor, you can't copyright a letter or a shape unless you're a billion dollar startup and in the same way that you can't copyright fizzbuzz or hello world. I don't think that's relevant for many algorithms Copilot will generate for you, though.

If simple work doesn't deserve protection, the pop music industry with their generic lyrics and simple tunes may be in big trouble. Disney as well, with their simplistic cartoon characters like Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse.

Personally, I think copyright laws are extremely damaging in their duration and restrictions. IP law in a small amount of countries actually allows for patenting algorithms, which is equally silly. International IP law currently gets in the way of society in my opinion.

However, without short term copyright neither programmers nor artists will be happy and I don't think anyone but knock-off companies will be happy with such an arrangement. Five or ten years is long enough for copyright in my book, but within those five or ten years copyright must remain protected.

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