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1. dec0de+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-01-14 07:41:54
Why do we keep posting the same arguments over and over with these stories.

It's like how humans learn. It contains chunks of copywriter material. What about copilot. Hackers don't respect artists. Yadda yadda. It's boring.

I don't know the answer, but after reading the same things over and over I don't know if I trust myself to even have a valid opinion about it.

replies(2): >>mbgerr+Q2 >>Popeye+63
2. mbgerr+Q2[view] [source] 2023-01-14 08:14:06
>>dec0de+(OP)
There’s a pretty easy answer here actually: if you want to include data in a set of training data for an AI system, you need to have (formal, statutory) permission to use it.
replies(2): >>chii+d3 >>dymk+YH
3. Popeye+63[view] [source] 2023-01-14 08:16:45
>>dec0de+(OP)
Well at least going to court over this should clarify the legal rights of the artists and the position of AI.

I can't see the artists winning.

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4. chii+d3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-14 08:18:31
>>mbgerr+Q2
why should a new right (the right to study the works) be granted without some compensation given back to society?

The existing set of rights granted under copyright does not include this.

replies(1): >>visarg+j8
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5. visarg+j8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-14 09:10:17
>>chii+d3
Yes, copyright protects expression, not ideas. Ideas are protected with patents.
replies(1): >>ghaff+RU
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6. dymk+YH[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-14 15:13:33
>>mbgerr+Q2
No, you don’t
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7. ghaff+RU[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-01-14 16:52:35
>>visarg+j8
It's implementations (supposedly) that are covered by patents. Ideas are not.
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