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1. ethanb+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-12-17 13:09:22
I don’t think it’s a waste of government resources to be reporting people who are trying to suppress voting by e.g. giving incorrect polling dates or locations.

Also don’t think it’s a waste to try to prevent ISIS recruiting material from reaching more confused and angry young men.

Both are legal though!

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2. TeeMas+j8[view] [source] 2022-12-17 14:21:46
>>ethanb+(OP)
The Taliban were on Twitter...
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3. ethanb+xa[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 14:41:24
>>TeeMas+j8
And?
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4. mindsl+lK[view] [source] 2022-12-17 17:59:05
>>ethanb+(OP)
You've hit the nail on the head - the term "political" is being used as a motte and bailey to take advantage of our intuition about bona fide political speech to cover for activities that aren't related to good faith debate. Like sure, tricking people into not voting is in some sense a "political" game, but it's not the kind of thing we'd consider "political speech" that needs protection. Same thing with assembling a flash mob to trash the capitol.

And yes, this definitional/access tension always exists when taking political stances that go against the entrenched power structure. Try to get an antiwar opinion broadcast in 2003 - music DJ's weren't even allowed to play songs whose lyrics might hint that war in general might be a bad thing. Dealing with this is just a completely new experience for those on the right that have gone from being conservative (ie generally supportive of the incumbent power structure and institutions) to revolutionary/reactionary and directly against the status quo power structure.

Social mass media, like all mass media, is now controlled by big capital (as was inevitable), with varying degrees of the individual employees adding some grassroots slant. Focusing on the slight individual flavor and ignoring the overriding power dynamic is just falling into the same old disempowering partisan trap.

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5. TeeMas+6L[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 18:03:02
>>ethanb+xa
Well clearly the FBI don't find the Taliban bad enough for some reasons...
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6. ethanb+XN[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 18:19:24
>>TeeMas+6L
Or… it turns out that the FBI has specific mandates and they include things like “counter election disinformation” and it doesn’t include things like “report every bad guy on Twitter.”

This is only confusing starting from your own incorrect premise.

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7. TeeMas+K51[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 20:04:32
>>ethanb+XN
The FBI don't have "mandates" against the Talibans? That doesn't seem to make sense...
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8. ethanb+a81[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 20:18:11
>>TeeMas+K51
The FBI is a domestic law enforcement agency. The Taliban does not really break US laws as a matter of course. If you hear otherwise please report them to the FBI.

Honestly it’s not very fruitful arguing this stuff with someone who clearly doesn’t understand the basics of the American system. There are plenty of resources online to learn about all this stuff if you’re interested.

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9. simple+i81[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 20:18:52
>>ethanb+XN
No. The FBI is prioritizing certain things and not prioritizing others. They're doing this for political reasons, which should outrage everyone.

But it doesn't outrage you because you're in agreement with the shit they're shoveling.

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10. ethanb+E81[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 20:21:30
>>simple+i81
The FBI: notoriously left wing

Lol

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11. simple+0K1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-18 01:24:28
>>ethanb+E81
The FBI is notoriously subversive, regardless of the political denomination.
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12. ethanb+bZ2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-18 16:04:21
>>simple+0K1
And your evidence of subverting the right wing here is that they reported people to Twitter for posting incorrect polling locations/dates?

Yeah there’s plenty to critique of FBI, but this is a profoundly weak case.

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13. simple+IG3[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-18 19:15:28
>>ethanb+bZ2
If you think that's the only piece evidence, I strongly suggest you keep looking. I'm not even a right-winger and it's obvious to me.
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14. TeeMas+Mjh[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-22 15:10:02
>>ethanb+a81
Literally first search result: https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorinfo/sirajuddin-haqqani
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