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1. andirk+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-12-17 06:27:10
The stupid H Biden lap top story shows that factually the government can twist a private company's arm outside of legal channels and said company will do as it is told. That is very bad. I'm not sure people realize this. Every incriminating leak showcases it more and more and yet people are generally not worried about it because they themselves have not been affected. Yet.
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2. concor+rv[view] [source] 2022-12-17 12:51:03
>>andirk+(OP)
Could have sworn these twitter files revealed that the government did zero arm twisting and it was Twitter on its own initiative.
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3. acdha+Je1[view] [source] 2022-12-17 17:43:45
>>andirk+(OP)
Can you point to exactly where the government twisted arms? What Taibi published showed the opposite.
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4. andirk+gV1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 22:08:33
>>acdha+Je1
We learned before Taibbi's scoop that Twitter disallowed sharing of the story including in DMs. Blocking content in DMs was supposedly only used for illicit underage material until that story. Facebook's Zuck outright admitted in plain English that they got contacted by the government (maybe FBI, can't remember) so they buried the story. This is not my opinion or guessing. We know this to be absolute fact.
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5. andirk+CV1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 22:10:25
>>concor+rv
"arm twisting" doesn't mean flat out forcing but strongly recommending with the idea that it may go further if their recommendation isn't followed. The laptop story being suppressed is now fact and admitted by both Twitter and Facebook and months before these Taibbi stories.
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6. acdha+k22[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-17 23:05:27
>>andirk+gV1
> We learned before Taibbi's scoop that Twitter disallowed sharing of the story including in DMs. Blocking content in DMs was supposedly only used for illicit underage material until that story

You might not have been aware of that but it was common knowledge years before. During the hours when that story was blocked using the same mechanism they used for other hacked materials like you might have seen if some celebrity’s nudes had been leaked. Within a day that was removed for the NY Post news story since they were individually taking down the tweets with the actual nudes.

> This is not my opinion or guessing. We know this to be absolute fact.

What we know as absolute fact is that you’re getting your information from people who carefully lie to you, and you didn’t verify the source. It sounds like you’re referring to Zuckerberg’s interview with Rogan, where he said this:

“The background here is that the FBI came to us - some folks on our team - and was like 'hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert. We thought there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election, we have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump that's similar to that'."

That’s important because what he said doesn’t support that narrative:

Rogan: “Did [the FBI] specifically say you need to be on guard about that story?”

Zuckerberg: “No, I don’t remember if it was that specifically, but it basically fit the pattern.”

https://nypost.com/2022/08/25/mark-zuckerberg-criticizes-twi...

Now, this is all off topic from the “Twitter Files” but again it’s important to remember that the mythology around conservative oppression is being used to distract from the real point that the laptop story failed to have the impact Giuliani & Trump wanted was because there wasn’t much of substance there and the evidence was tainted by sloppy handling. They’re trying to market it as a tale of censorship because they know that it wasn’t effective as a scandal.

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7. andirk+Ga2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-18 00:18:23
>>acdha+k22
It's common knowledge yet here we are arguing whether these social media outlets block useless content that happens to be embarrassing to the State when suggested to by the FBI. You seem to agree with this but frame it as a counterpoint. "Mythology around conservative oppression"? I don't follow conservative whinings about how their hate speech is oppressed.
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