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> Also, it's called the FBI. Their job is to investigate federal matters, which includes content on social social media

their job is not to interfere with the 1st amemndment.

>>ekianj+(OP)
Their organization seems weirdly large if that's their sole job.

>>ekianj+(OP)
Their job is to investigate, prevent and prosecute criminal behaviour.

That includes content that isn't protected by free speech e.g. child pornography.

>>threes+74
Which is why they’re flagging people making jokes about elections on Twitter, obviously.

>>ekianj+(OP)
The FBI's building is named after the guy who saw MLK Jr as the biggest national security threat and most likely had a strong hand in trying to silence and murder him. The FBI does plenty of heroic things daily, but they are also deeply rooted in guarding the status quo of those in power over actual justice.

>>philwe+K7
Poe's Law. No one can tell your dumbass joke saying the election is on a Wednesday is a joke. Especially when it's right next to a bot account from eastern Europe that said the same thing.

>>viro+la
I would expect the FBI to be able to tell whether or not that joke is criminal behavior within their legal jurisdiction.

>>viro+la
Even if these people were not joking it is not clear that this is illegal. The statutes that try to prevent election misinformation likely violate the first amendment or they may not apply in these specific cases. The FBI should be prosecuting people so these statutes have a chance of being challenged in court and these people have a chance to defend themselves. Either that or twitter should have informed them that the report was originated by the US government. If this information was never leaked then the people effected by the FBI’s secret speech suppression may never have known and would never had a chance to contest it in court.

>>benmmu+Df
> The statutes that try to prevent election misinformation

Do such statutes even exist? I suspect the answer is no, and that the FBI is just engaging in extralegal, extrajudicial monkeyshines.

> If this information was never leaked then the people effected by the FBI’s secret speech suppression may never have known and would never had a chance to contest it in court.

From a certain point of view (which seems distressingly popular on HN lately) that’s considered a feature and not a bug.

>>philwe+Fg
https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/safety-resources/sca...

> Intentionally deceiving qualified voters to prevent them from voting is voter suppression—and it is a federal crime.

> Bad actors use various methods to spread disinformation about voting, such as social media platforms, texting, or peer-to-peer messaging applications on smartphones. They may provide misleading information about the time, manner, or place of voting. This can include inaccurate election dates or false claims about voting qualifications or methods, such as false information suggesting that one may vote by text, which is not allowed in any jurisdiction.

> Help defend the right to vote by reporting any suspected instances of voter suppression—especially those received through a private communication channel like texting—to your local FBI field office or at tips.fbi.gov.

Guess this is in their purview.

>>philwe+4f
You seem to have some incredibly strong opinions on how you think national security is supposed to work while not seeming to understand even the basic functionality of the role and remit of the FBI.

It’s ok to just say you don’t know sometimes.

>>Apocry+Di
In that case I’m with benmmurphy: they should be enforcing the law by actually prosecuting people in court (or, to be pedantic, performing arrests and investigations to support a prosecution by a US Attorney), not engaging in extrajudicial monkeyshines.

>>philwe+ms1
I agree with the spirit of this, but the point is this neither extrajudicial nor monkeyshines, nor out of the ordinary, which means this entire discussion has been bamboozled by business as usual, while more interesting controversies have been neglected.

>>mhoad+8p
The basic functionality of the role and remit of the FBI does not entail helping Twitter enforce its terms of service. They’re supposed to be a law enforcement agency that performs criminal investigations to support federal prosecutors, not a secret police force that engages in extrajudicial measures against political dissidents, though I suppose Fred Hampton and Martin Luther King would have something to say about the latter.

>>Apocry+Ys1
For the past couple of years, the defense of Twitter’s aggressive moderation has been that Twitter is a private company and that the First Amendment only stops the government from censoring speech. Now we know that Twitter was doing this, in part, at the behest of a government agency. If this isn’t “out of the ordinary” it’s only because of the FBI’s well-established reputation for doing far worse things.

>>philwe+wu1
As Snowden’s revelations illustrate, Big Tech is inherently compromised. Caveat emptor. I shed no tears for Twitter. I know that they are likely constantly moderating not only on the behalf of the federal government, but quite possibly your own local authorities, but also for any business who might have an interest and hold leverage over Twitter. Including individuals as well.

In this milieu, I find all of this alarmism to be misplaced, and thus worth calling out.