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1. robbie+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-12-16 03:59:22
Sure. I don’t think anyone would debate his capacity to do what he wants to his own toy.

But it is certainly worthwhile pointing out the hypocrisy of his statements. When people’s words don’t line up with their actions you should be wary.

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2. hgdfhg+n[view] [source] 2022-12-16 04:02:30
>>robbie+(OP)
The flight tracker account led to a dangerous situation for his toddler son. Any father would do the same thing.
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3. richbe+a1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:07:41
>>hgdfhg+n
This is demonstrably false; Elon didn't even file a police report.

> Sweeney said he hasn't received any notification of legal action, and the last time his bot tweeted anything was Dec. 12, "which is not last night, so I don’t get how that’s connected.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/twitter-suspe...

Did you really create a new account just to spread misinformation?

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4. dmix+c1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:07:47
>>hgdfhg+n
He's fighting a wave of Striesand Effect and he knows it (by tweeting https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603576251125362688)

This approach won't solve the problem. Especially for a celebrity. Twitter's censorship was dumb before, but this is equally or even dumber by being so prominent and kicking the bees nest.

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5. generj+c2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:14:03
>>hgdfhg+n
He claims it did.

But there’s no evidence the dangerous situation happened at all (and even the counter evidence of there being no police report). He’s previously lied about another son dying in his arms (to justify not unbanning Alex Jones) so it’s very feasible the entire incident is made up.

The last flight tracker post was several days before the alleged incident. Totally unclear what link exists between the flight tracker and the alleged incident, unless an ADS-B transponder is on the car and the car is flying.

Even if there was a link, a dedicated stalker is perfectly capable of retrieving the flight information themselves from government websites or other tracking websites. Elon hasn’t even asked for it to be restricted information - which just requires asking the FAA, most flight tracking websites voluntarily comply with the list as well, though not all. That would be a reasonable first step to make, along with privately discussing the incident with the account holder.

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6. kevinm+13[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:19:14
>>hgdfhg+n
Should Taxi Driver be banned because it led to a dangerous situation for Ronald Reagan?
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7. Laaas+d3[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:20:20
>>generj+c2
Source for claim about lying about son dying in his arms?
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8. richbe+H3[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:23:34
>>Laaas+d3
https://mobile.twitter.com/justinemusk/status/15955060875703...
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9. ceejay+J3[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:23:40
>>Laaas+d3
The child's mother. https://twitter.com/justinemusk/status/1595506087570333696
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10. labste+K4[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:32:04
>>ceejay+J3
I wouldn’t trust anything posted on Twitter as a source. Anyone can get blue checks these days.
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11. memish+f5[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:35:17
>>generj+c2
Not likely a lie.

False memories are not uncommon with traumatic events like a child's death. I'd give anyone a pass on that one and give the benefit of the doubt.

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12. Laaas+y8[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:56:06
>>labste+K4
I'm not sure how that is relevant. That _is_ in fact Elon Musk's first wife's account.
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13. Laaas+I8[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 04:57:06
>>richbe+a1
s/spread misinformation/spread what they believe to be true/
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14. richbe+na[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 05:06:33
>>Laaas+I8
Indeed, though not necessarily mutually exclusive.

I have personally seen the claim debunked on numerous platforms almost immediately after it was made, however, I concede that someone else may not have been exposed to that yet.

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15. generj+Ac[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 05:20:56
>>memish+f5
That’s a very fair point. Also possible his ex-wife had a false memory as well.

I’m reading too much of my disbelief Elon is a good parent into that story. I think I am retroactively applying modern Elon (weird breeder thing, arguably abusive child naming, repeated attacks on his daughter) to an earlier stage of his life. And that’s also not likely fair or accurate to who Elon was at the time his son died.

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16. Herbst+PE[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 09:12:26
>>hgdfhg+n
Musk is not a trustworthy source of information.
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