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Every other living thing on the planet spends most of it's time just fighting to survive. I think that's evidence it's not a 'made up idea' and likely may be what life is actually about.

>>stcroi+(OP)
What’re you doing on the internet? No other living thing on this planet spends time on the internet. Or maybe we shouldn’t be copying things from nature just because.

Also kinda curious how you deal with people that have disabilities and can’t exactly fight to survive. Me, I’m practically blind without glasses/contacts, so I’ll not be taking life lessons from the local mountain lion, thanks.

>>stcroi+(OP)
This is the dictionary definition of appeal to nature fallacy.

>>loveha+Z3
Taking a break from my struggle just like a lion takes a nap. I wouldn't agree we are copying nature, rather, we are an inseparable part of it. The fact that we do some things other members don't isn't a convincing argument for me that we're not part of nature.

If you can't support yourself for whatever reason, you rely on others to do that work on your behalf. Social animals, wolves for example, try to provide for their sick and handicapped, but that's only after their own needs are met first.

>>deathg+4c
That fallacy asserts a judgement that natural=good. I'm not claiming that.

We have physical needs just like other members of the natural world - food for example, if we can't provide food for ourselves, we'll starve to death just like an animal. Why bother judging this situation as good or bad when it's not something that can be changed.