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1. Kalium+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-12-15 14:37:44
What's going to happen if technologists collectively come to the table and engaging in sincere discussion rooted in kindness, compassion, and empathy?

I fully expect there will be zero reciprocation. There will, instead, be a strong expectation that that empathy turns into centering of fear and a resulting series of economic choices. AI systems are now threatening the ability of some artists to get paid and those artists would like that to stop.

I think we're seeing it right now. You shift effortlessly from talking about empathy to talking about the money. You consider the one the way to get the other, so you deplore the horrifying lack of empathy.

Let me put it another way. Would you be happy if you saw an outpouring of empathy, sympathy, and identification with artists coupled with exactly the same decisions about machine learning systems?

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2. lilact+v8[view] [source] 2022-12-15 15:08:21
>>Kalium+(OP)
Yes, an outpouring of sympathy, empathy, etc combined with the same unilateral decision making that technologists make would be terrible. I would call continuing to do that unempathetic.

Technologists acting like technocrats and expecting everyone to give them sympathy, empathy and identification is laughably rude and insulting.

3. Mezzie+S9[view] [source] 2022-12-15 15:13:30
>>Kalium+(OP)
I do find it funny that artists are complaining about things like AI generated art clogging up art sites/reducing commissions/etc. because my particular artistic outlet of choice is writing and visual art has completely overtaken text based content online, particularly for anything fandom or nerd adjacent. The visual artists are also responsible for the monetization of fandom to begin with which I'm still pretty salty about. We moved from discussions and fanfic to 500+ 'commission me to draw your OTP!' and 'Look at this skimpy character art!' daily posts.

Shoe's on the other foot now and they don't like it.

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