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1. evo_9+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-12-08 17:40:58
Learn SugarCRM which is built on PHP; SugarCRM devs are rare, in high demand, and very highly paid (I just hired a full remote sr php dev at 145k with full benes/10% starting bonus).

We’re always looking btw.

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2. boredt+x2[view] [source] 2022-12-08 17:54:55
>>evo_9+(OP)
That's lowish to mid $$ for a senior dev (at least in the US).
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3. xkcd19+D2[view] [source] 2022-12-08 17:55:18
>>evo_9+(OP)
hi
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4. skoski+w4[view] [source] 2022-12-08 18:05:42
>>evo_9+(OP)
Can I work remotely?
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5. tomnip+pn[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-08 19:36:00
>>boredt+x2
FAANG-level pay is the exception.
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6. boredt+CW[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-08 22:08:50
>>tomnip+pn
FAANG level pay is well over $200 for a senior, easy. There's plenty of companies offering senior comp in the 150-200 range that aren't faang.
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7. user39+Dn1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-09 00:56:33
>>xkcd19+D2
Hello!
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8. tomnip+cb2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-09 08:46:38
>>boredt+CW
Total comp yes, not salary like OP is talking about. Only a handful of companies have total comp that doubles base thanks to RSU and stock, which a vast majority of the worlds ~25MM programmers do not participate in.
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9. arunix+Un2[view] [source] 2022-12-09 10:43:58
>>evo_9+(OP)
How would you learn it though? It seems to no longer be open source as of 2013(?)
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10. boredt+TK3[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-09 19:00:30
>>tomnip+cb2
Nope, I mean base salary not total comp.
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11. tomnip+fn4[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-09 22:56:16
>>boredt+TK3
It's amazing how skewed the HN crowd is on developer comp. You'll find that $140-150k is senior range for a vast majority of the U.S. software engineering market.
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12. evo_9+KT6[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-10 21:52:29
>>arunix+Un2
SugarCRM provides online training but it's not public.

How we train our dev's is to use those courses and to have our current PHP/Sugar dev mentor them on the differences.

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13. evo_9+1V6[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-10 22:00:13
>>boredt+x2
Can you share a FAAANG job ad for a PHP guy - fully remote - at $200k or more? I'm genuinely curious if that is a thing.

Or even which of those companies even hire PHP devs anymore?

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14. boredt+F4r[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-16 14:27:20
>>tomnip+fn4
Now you're just moving goalposts. 140k is not "very high" pay for a senior software engineer anywhere in the US.
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