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1. cies+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-12-08 13:33:13
> It's not a healthy eco-system.

I'd argue that's true for all of PHP. Sure it got better, but compared to other langugaes it is still a mess.

replies(3): >>notres+y >>dncorn+R >>esskay+x8
2. notres+y[view] [source] 2022-12-08 13:36:38
>>cies+(OP)
Please provide arguments to support your claim.
3. dncorn+R[view] [source] 2022-12-08 13:38:23
>>cies+(OP)
Disagree, composer exists, namespaces exist, autoloading exists. Enough quality frameworks.

I hope you can give some factual arguments why it's still a mess.

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4. esskay+x8[view] [source] 2022-12-08 14:29:51
>>cies+(OP)
None of this is on PHP the language. The roadmap is extremely clear for PHP. The problem is the likes of Wordpress having no oversight on their plugin directory. Really they should've stopped accepting new listings / updates for plugins that dont support the latest release.

Wordpress has a lot to answer for here, but given the archaic and frankly idiotic way they operate they'll do nothing of the sort.

PHP is very backwards friendly and with a strong and stable ecosystem built around composer theres no excuses for majorly used (and often very profitable) wordpress plugins lagging so far behind.

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5. JodieB+Aa[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-12-08 14:44:07
>>dncorn+R
I think GP was not talking about PHP ecosystem in general but about Wordpress ecosystem in particular. And I largely support this claim.
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