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1. pjc50+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-11-03 11:08:52
Wikipedia is a terrible example for the "zero censorship" crowd because stuff gets deleted or locked all the time. It's an example of how you can produce something useful despite a raging ideological battleground over all sorts of topics.
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2. dalbas+gc[view] [source] 2022-11-03 12:44:08
>>pjc50+(OP)
I didn't say "zero censorship." I don't even know what that means for an encyclopedia.

Wikipedia have a model for user generated content. It's much more resilient, open, unbiased and successful than social media. This isn't because they have some super nuanced, single-us distinction between moderation and censorship. They never really needed to split that hair.

They have a model for collaboratively editing an encyclopedia, including lots of details and special cases that deal with disagreement, discontent and ideological battlegrounds.

They also have a different organisational and power structure. Wikipedia doesn't exist to sell ads, or some other purpose above the creation of an encyclopedia. Users/editors have a lot of power. Things happen in the open.

Between those two, they've done much better than Alphabet/FB/Twitter/etc. Wikipedia is the ultimate prize for censorship, narrative wars, disinformation, campaigning, activism and such. Despite this, and despite far fewer resources it outperforms the commercial platforms. I don't think it's a coincidence.

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3. brigan+uV[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-11-03 15:53:25
>>dalbas+gc
I can point to particular pages that have failed in providing an accurate representation of the subject and are under the control of activists or interested groups.

I also get a bit tired of looking someone up and it has "so and so says this person is <insert bad thing>", claims that usually stack up about as well as that SPLC claim against Maajid Nawaz[1] did.

Given this, I find it hard to see how they're doing better than the other companies you mention.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majid_Nawaz#Claim_by_Southern_...

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