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Huh, how big does your website have to be in order for your bugs to be patched this way?

>>acid__+(OP)
Big enough for Apple to believe a critical mass of users will switch to another browser if they don't bend the rules.

>>shadow+R4
It’s more likely about making sure Safari users have a good or consistent user experience on popular sites.

When you’re the default browser on 1.5+ billion devices, it’s less about losing a few users here or there.

>>alwill+J6
I think that's two ways to say the same thing.

Users can still install Chrome on a Macintosh. Apple's larger concern is probably whether they'll lose hardware share if, say, Reddit doesn't load right on MacBooks (you'd be surprised how many people buy an expensive machine as basically an internet appliance) or, more importantly: iPhones.

>>alwill+J6
It's not just about being the default browser, they're the only browser with no user choice to switch or manually upgrade or downgrade independent of the OS.

>>shadow+R4
They want a good experience for people who click around popular sites on demo devices at the Apple Store. You can’t switch browser engines on iOS

>>acid__+(OP)
Judging by how many times they show up: Google.

Just kidding. Mostly. Lots of little fiddly text editing patches for Google Docs, which doesn’t surprise me. It’s, I would assume, the most-used application suite on the web, and there’s going to be weird edge cases that pop up around rich text editing that get magnified by the sheer number of users. Including probably inside Apple.

>>espreh+ac
Clarification, not to disagree or to minimize, but in case this gives the wrong impression to anyone who doesn’t know: only on iDevices. macOS has no restrictions specific to browser engines.

>>shadow+Jb
I think that's two ways to say the same thing.

I don’t think so.

Apple has had record Mac sales for the past two years, since the release of Apple Silicon.

There’s no way wether or not any one particular website renders as expected is going to meaningfully impact Mac or iPhone sales.

Sure, Apple would prefer that users stick with Safari but they’re not going to lose any sleep if customers use Chrome/Firefox/Edge or whatever else on a new $2499 MacBook Pro.

It’s certainly way more in Reddit’s or other big web property best interest to perform well for Safari users, especially on iPhones and iPads where all browsers use WebKit as their rendering engine.