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1. JoeAlt+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-10-07 12:47:48
Exactly why I live in the country. No neighbors, who almost by definition exist to constrain my life. By making up laughable things like "hurts everyone's eyes to have to see a car parked on the front lawn".
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2. nemo44+N[view] [source] 2022-10-07 12:51:27
>>JoeAlt+(OP)
Great, please do stay away from the rest of us. You’re happy being alone and we’re happy to not have to be around you. Everyone wins here.
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3. ghaff+22[view] [source] 2022-10-07 12:57:19
>>JoeAlt+(OP)
Separation does go a long way to preventing disputes about whether a property line is exactly here or 3 feet west. Or whether the garden and lawn upkeep are sufficiently in keeping with the neighborhood standard.

I'm guessing my garden might be considered substandard in many suburban settings.

I'm mostly pretty sympathetic with people doing whatever is "reasonable" with their properties including drying clothes on a line. But there's clearly some point in a suburban neighborhood where broken down cars and decaying furniture will among other things depress nearby property values which is an understandable issue for the owners.

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4. JoeAlt+94[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-07 13:10:48
>>nemo44+N
True about the first part. You actually have no idea what it's like being around me. So I have one up on the rest of you there.
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5. JoeAlt+m4[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-07 13:12:06
>>ghaff+22
The property line thing: not so much. My neighbor hires out the working of his field. The gate into both fields in in common, but it entirely on my property.

The contractor doesn't know this, so plants to the center of the gate. Which is 3 or 4 rows of corn on my field.

Property lines are problematic everywhere.

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6. ghaff+w6[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-07 13:21:50
>>JoeAlt+m4
Fair enough and certainly access right of ways can be an issue requiring lawyers especially if a property is being sold. That said, issues relating to a tree branch being over some property line tens to be less likely to become an issue when everyone has a fair bit of land.
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7. nemo44+We[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-07 13:59:49
>>JoeAlt+94
> You actually have no idea what it's like being around me.

That's great. I'm grateful we live in a country where people that are compelled to always put themselves first and not have to consider other people can remove themselves from society and choose to live an isolated life away from society. I'm even more grateful for the people that recognize this about themselves and make the move.

Living socially involves sacrifices and considering those around you. They do the same and we live harmoniously together. There's some people that can't or won't do this and if they try and live socially they end up frustrated as they are rejected by their community. In some cases it results in violence and in others just miserable people that can't seem to get along with anyone and they have a constant chip on their shoulder. Removing themselves from society and going to the country is the best route here.

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8. phil21+Gf[view] [source] 2022-10-07 14:02:41
>>JoeAlt+(OP)
You'd think this. I've been Looking for some land to build some interesting projects (larger than usual personal-use solar farm with mechanical outbuildings, small wind turbines, various experimentation with hoop houses, etc.) lends me to believe the NIMBYs have made it to most of the country.

You have to truly be in the absolutely middle of nowhere with an amazingly huge amount of land to actually be able to "do what you want" in a reasonable manner without someone telling you no.

And I'm talking about stuff that couldn't be seen from off your property line. So many county regulations and such these days - some places 100+ miles from the nearest international airport had county building restrictions nearly as bad as the suburban development I lived in.

It's been a very eye opening and incredibly sad process for me. Land of the free indeed. It seems there is increasingly nowhere left to run away from petty authoritarians.

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9. JoeAlt+YF[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-07 15:58:46
>>phil21+Gf
I learned years ago, that if there are no inspectors then there are no regulations.

In my county there are inspectors for water and septic. That's all. So that had to be to code.

Everything else is up to the landowner.

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10. JoeAlt+nJ[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-07 16:14:38
>>nemo44+We
That's not quite it. Those in the country live socially and harmoniously. But without the pressure of breathing at the neighbors armpit, it's far easier.

For instance, I contribute to the local volunteer fire department. The annual festival. The fireworks on the 4th.

I pull my neighbors out of the ditch when their car slides on snow in the winter. Hell, I snowplow my stretch of gravel with my tractor if the county isn't going to get to it for a couple days and my neighbors need to get to work.

Interactions are generally more cooperative, maybe even healthier, without the always-being-in-one-another's-face.

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11. torste+5L[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-07 16:21:56
>>JoeAlt+YF
That's how it is in most of WV south of, say, Hampshire County.
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12. nemo44+t91[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-10-07 18:08:11
>>JoeAlt+nJ
Rural communities are great and I'm grateful for them as they are the breadbasket of our nation. Having real communities that come together to help and to celebrate things is great and I'm grateful I live in a town that's like that too. But yeah, where I live I think you need to keep the automobile on the driveway lol.
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