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HP Elitebooks and Thinkpads are designed and built with Linux in mind. I never came across an HP Elitebook or Thinkpad which failed to run Linux out of the box.

Dell XPS is the latest addition to this group.

Consumer laptops come with a lot of trickery analogous to WinModems of the era, which require Windows specifically. Hence these cost saving measurements create a lot of problems.

>>bayind+(OP)
Disagree, used to use Dell Inspiron and some cheap HPs, found nothing extraordinary.

>>paulca+71
It's more of a chance than the norm, then.

My Dad's Lenovo Ideapad comes with a soft-raid of two SSDs for example, since a faster and twice bigger would be much more pricey.

Also, I've seen non-standard GPUs, tons of broken BIOS tables, vendor specific devices with weird quirks and whatnot over the years.

Maybe these things still happen but newer kernels know how to deal with this better, I don't know.

>>paulca+71
Cheap HPs are not elitebooks for one, and two an inspiron is not an XPS. I've used both elitebook and XPS with zero issues.

>>bayind+(OP)
They never fail, true, but there is always some special model capabilities that can only be made available after the usual weekend and late nights fine tuning.

>>pjmlp+LQ
I never had to tune anything on my old EliteBook 850G2 (That thing was new when I got it), and had ~8 hours of battery life from get go.

Some higher end devices of course need it (esp. in the biometrics department), but rest is automagic now, as far as I experienced.

>>dapids+R4
I think the point was that even these cheaper consumer laptops worked fine with Linux

>>doetoe+JN1
Exactly.