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What laptops brands do you buy? Why?

>>petra+(OP)
Right now I'm liking System76. Expensive, but I like that they come with linux working out of the box. They're specifically designed/tested to work well with linux so no worries about the hardware not being supported. Like many other companies they are basically selling re-branded laptops made by the Taiwanese company Clevo. I still can't audit every chip in them, but at least I don't have clear documentation of repeated abuses (so far).

System76 is looking into making their own hardware now too so I'm really looking forward to seeing what they come up with in-house.

>>petra+(OP)
Framework laptop is a good option as well.

>>teva+j3
I had a Framework and really liked it. Unfortunately the components just degraded really quickly for me, and now can't work but 20 minutes at a time until it freezes completely. Swapped out for a Thinkpad last week.

Even swapped out the Framework mainboard after a long back and forth with support. Just some poor battery unloading or similar causing shorts. I was very close to committing my company to using them until this started happening to my tester unit and my lead engineer's tester unit.

I hope the best for Framework -- I really love their repairability promise -- but before I can commit my company to them I need them to not be lemons.

>>autoex+p2
I got a Meerkat mini desktop 6 months ago, and I love it.

They do make their own desktops and minis now. I think they use Clevo for laptops, and those do get more complaints here on HN than the desktops (but I think the consensus is they are getting better). They have more laptop models, so making their own would be a huge task.

>>teva+j3
Comes with “vpro corporate.”

>>teva+j3
good luck finding any on the used market

>>tomrod+m5
> Unfortunately the components just degraded really quickly for me...

How long in months was “really quickly”?

>>yourap+Dn1
First freeze in the first two weeks, six months until unusable.

>>tomrod+m5
I'd be running a RAM test.

Try out Memtest86 - I think it's also usually an option in the boot menu on Ubuntu live-DVDs.

Let it run overnight, I've had crashes like that before where the RAM only starts failing after a few hours of memtesting.

>>broken+j83
I tried to work around that by trying different RAM sticks. 2 initial + 2 new, both sides, swapping, using only one, etc.

I guess next step would be Memtest! Thanks for the reminder.