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1. wooque+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-09-24 17:45:24
Yep, my 2 year old Ryzen laptop still doesn't have properly functioning sleep without tweaking kernel parameter, and that workaround got broken on 5.19 kernel release and I had to find out new parameter to tweak.

Linux worked perfectly on my old laptop from 2015 though.

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2. Delk+T5[view] [source] 2022-09-24 18:24:14
>>wooque+(OP)
These kinds of things probably still depend a lot on the brand and the product line.

The post is really only an anecdote about a ThinkPad, and a relatively old one at that, which is probably as good as it gets in terms of Linux compatibility.

I personally more or less agree with the title, though, assuming a suitable hardware choice. I have a new-ish Ryzen ThinkPad for work and the only issue I've had is Gnome occasionally semi-hanging, and I don't know if that's just because of Ubuntu being a bit flimsy or because of something more general such as an issue with the AMD graphics driver.

Also, the Teams client the post mentions is about to be dropped by MS and it was never really that good to begin with, but having seen about two decades of desktop Linux, I'd rather be surprised that it's been available and worked somewhat reliably at all without hit-and-miss with Wine.

3. Teknom+Wg[view] [source] 2022-09-24 19:48:06
>>wooque+(OP)
Out of curiosity, what laptop? My samples in the last 6 years are:

- Thinkpad Carbon X1 14" (i7-5600u). Everything worked out of the box with Arch Linux at the time. Best experience I've ever had.

- HP Envy 13z (R5 2500u) everything works today but the out of the box experience was very poor. Windows update installed an APU microcode update that broke the Linux AMDGPU driver and had to run an -rc kernel for awhile. Took a year to get a touchscreen driver and years to get the driver for the tablet sensors (rotation, etc.). Total wait of 3 years for all features, but I never had the desire to use it as a tablet so I was okay with it. Sleep works but this laptop had awful battery drain issues in sleep (30% per day).

- Dell XPS 15 7590 (i9-9980hk) - Sleep is broke in both Linux and Windows. Everything else works well, including, notably, NVIDIA Optimus / DRI PRIME.

- Asus ZenBook 14 (R7 5800U) - second best out of box experience. Touchpad is connected via i2c and my Gentoo install didn't have it enabled. I'd never bumped into i2c hid devices other than touchscreens.

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4. meibo+vv[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-09-24 21:59:58
>>Teknom+Wg
> Dell XPS 15 7590 (i9-9980hk) - Sleep is broke in both Linux and Windows.

Yes! How can they sell these like that? My XPS 13 will never go to sleep correctly, either the screen stays on or it doesn't shut off correctly, in Windows or Linux. You'd think that this is the basic feature a laptop has to have. And it's not just me, their forums are full of people having problems and their support has no idea. They were sending me guides for latitudes from 2012.

Definitely not going for Dell hardware again.

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5. wooque+Un1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-09-25 10:56:42
>>Teknom+Wg
Lenovo Thinkbook 14 G2 (Ryzen 7 4700U), old laptop was Dell Latitude 7xx0 (or something, don't remember exact model), with Intel i5-5300U CPU, Linux worked perfectly on that machine.
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6. Teknom+Zr5[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-09-26 17:37:07
>>wooque+Un1
Oof. I better check in with the person I bought one for as a gift... (R5 4500U variant though)
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