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1. rozenm+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-09-08 20:38:59
Pretty sure she wasn't around for over 30k years
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2. wl+g5[view] [source] 2022-09-08 21:07:03
>>rozenm+(OP)
30,000 years veers well into the realm of pre-history.
3. kixiQu+Ba[view] [source] 2022-09-08 21:37:58
>>rozenm+(OP)
For anyone wondering:

> The Tjapwurung, an Aboriginal people in what is now southern Australia, shared the story of this bird hunt from generation to generation across an unbelievably large slice of time—many more millennia than one might think possible. The birds (most likely the species with the scientific name Genyornis newtoni) memorialized in this tale are now long extinct. Yet the story of the Tjapwurung’s “tradition respecting the existence” of these birds conveys how people pursued the giant animals. At the time of this particular hunt, between 5,000 and 10,000 years ago, volcanoes in the area were erupting, wrote amateur ethnographer James Dawson in his 1881 book Australian Aborigines, and so scientists have been able to corroborate this oral history by dating volcanic rocks.

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> What are the limits of such ancient memories? For what length of time can knowledge be transferred within oral societies before its essence becomes irretrievably lost? Under optimal conditions, as suggested by science-determined ages for events recalled in ancient stories, orally shared knowledge can demonstrably endure more than 7,000 years, quite possibly 10,000, but probably not much longer.

https://www.sapiens.org/language/oral-tradition/

So, anyway, be it 10k or 30k, definitely within an era of "history" and not "pre-history"

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