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I've never really understood how we can still have monarchies but I do believe Elizabeth was probably one the better ones that have sat on those thrones.

A few years ago I looked into how much power she had and I was shocked. I was also shocked by how much that monarchy owns.

>>oblib+(OP)
You were shocked that most of the UK’s Democratic institutions exist at her pleasure?

>>oblib+(OP)
It depends on what you mean by "owns" too. My understanding is that legally the monarch (or is it the Crown, I know there is some kind of distinction) is the landlord of last resort for all of his or her holdings. In the case of the British monarch, that includes not just the isles, but the Commonwealth realms as well. Any property taxes in those realms are technically feudal rents.

And yeah the British monarch's theoretical legal power is immense. For one thing the UK armed forces swear loyalty personally to the monarch, not to the government! The monarch could go to war with Parliament again and the military would be upholding their oath!

The late Queen was a woman of impeccable public ethics though. In some sense it's more admirable for a person who is not bound by the law to choose to follow it scrupulously, which she did.

>>kurupt+N2
Yes I was, but that was just a part of it. The "United Kingdom" is huge. It's hard for me to imagine, for example, how Australians are still owned and controlled by that Monarchy.

In practice it's not much different here since we still have the military draft but so far we can still fire a "President" via impeachment if they go crazy on us. The UK's "subjects" do not have that power, they are truly akin to chattel.

>>User23+d6
You've nailed it. I'd never really given the UK Monarchy much thought but a few years ago I spent a little time looking into it and was fairly well shocked by how immense their power and wealth is.

I think it's fair to say that Elizabeth was exceptional for how she handled her position as Queen but the United Kingdom is always just one "King" away from a disastrous ruler and that could get very ugly very fast and potentially for a very long time.

That said, same could happen here and for much the same reasons, which basically comes down to issues of common sense and fealty. If the first is low and the second high the odds of getting caught up in a shit storm are pretty good.

>>oblib+pz3
Just wait until there’s a King who thinks he can do better than parliament.