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You are overstimating HN way too much.

>>rat998+(OP)
A hundred years, I give it 10 tops.

>>nominu+w
It’s already been around since 2007. How many decades does HN need to be around before people realize it’s an institution?

>>sillys+z1
Slashdot has been around since 1997 and people still rave about its moderation system today. However, while I have high hopes for HN, it could very well go the way of digg overnight

>>sillys+z1
The reason it's an institution is because it hasn't been bought by some corp trying to squeeze value out of eyeballs, which is why it hasn't really changed much.

However, it takes money and time to keep it around in a not for profit way, so it will be an institution as long as it's funding is the same.

>>grepfr+l9
I doubt that though. Digg was hyped way too much and the inevitable decline that comes after a hype killed it. Some things are good enough to survive that phase but Digg wasn't. HN never had a hype phase, just slow but strong & steady growth. And not growing too much either.

It seems the perfect circumstances to really last. It doesn't have an invasive business model, or investors screaming for ROI either. That's the kind of thing that often leads to user-hostile changes that so often start the decline into oblivion.

Also, I would imagine it's pretty cheap to host, after all it's all very simple text, I don't think it hosts any pictures beside the little Ycombinator logo in the corner :)

>>jethro+4a
Yeah I really hope that if Ycombinator ever wants to pull out, that they don't sell it but let the community pull together to support it. I'd gladly donate to keep it running as it is.

It would be even better if they just keep doing it as they are though <3

>>nominu+w
it would be super ironic if reddit acquired it somehow

>>GekkeP+oo
Change of ownership is inevitable, as people don't live forever. When that happens, if the new owners aren't interested or motivated to keep funding HN, it could easily go the way of the dodo.

Hopefully archive.org is involved in archiving HN, though unfortunately archive.org's future itself is in jeopardy.

>>pmoria+CI1
> though unfortunately archive.org's future itself is in jeopardy.

How so?? This is the first I've heard of it.

>>GekkeP+8T1
It's truly tragic how few people have heard of this. We should be doing all we can to raise awareness of this lawsuit before it's too late.

Here are some relevant links:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31703394

https://decrypt.co/31906/activists-rally-save-internet-archi...

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17211300/hachette-book-...

>>pmoria+CW1
Thanks! I heard of this back in the day but I didn't know it reached the courts now. I feel this is a bit self-inflicted though. A valuable service like this is already under scrutiny for copyrights and playing chicken with big publishers with tons of money to spend on lawyers is a really bad idea. I'm also opposed to the way copyright works but I would separate that fight from the service.

I guess it got them some goodwill during Corona but it could cause more damage than it's worth.

I wouldn't have done it, it was not like it was a real value during the pandemic. Those who are really into books and don't care about copyright already know their way to more gray-area sites like LibGen.

>>GekkeP+Ep
Considering the hardware it's running on, it wouldn't cost much to keep it running.

>>Sohcah+xe8
More the labor I'd assume. Development to continue scaling, maintenance and moderation.