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I've come to believe that there is a Murphy's law equivalent for tech recruiting. "If you can be abused as a technical candidate, you will be." It's just going to happen eventually that recruiters, either individual recruiters or recruitment firms/companies as a whole, will abuse your rights to just about everything or treat you with disrespect at some point or another. Developers are just commodities for these guys now.

>>jb1991+(OP)
Not just technical candidates — I saw garbage like this when I was a lawyer, also.

>>jb1991+(OP)
IDK when it recently started but I've been getting direct messages from various recruiters to an email that I only make public on certain open source packages. As a result I remove all instances of email and just mark every recruiter that I never reached out to as spam.

It's just so disrespectful, as you said.

>>azemet+B1
What is disrespectful? Their job? I think it only becomes disrespectful when they keep nagging after you have told them off or something. Otherwise, they are just doing their job, seeking out good candidates. It's not like all of them are conniving to swamp you, they act individually and what you eventually hate is the sum of those individual parts.

>>chirau+i4
It is disrespectful if they are webscraping email addresses and cold-emailing people who never signed up for their recruitment "service".

>>chirau+i4
It's disrespectful because I never consented to giving their company my email, nor have I consented to their services. This type of reasoning is why a vast majority of people never answer their phone, because there is a very large chance it'll be a phone call from a spammer/scammer.

I have no issues when I purposely choose to work with a recruiter, but invading aspects of my life when they never got permission to IS disrespectful.

>>chirau+i4
They're no different from any other spammer who trawls through repos and forums scooping up email addresses.

Whether it's dick pills or job opportunities, it's spam.

>>chirau+i4
Except they aren't seeking out good candidates. The vast majority are spamming every email they can scrape, buy, or steal.

>>gnicho+W
To recruiters it's just a numbers game. No different than sales in any other industry.

>>chirau+i4
Someone can have a job that's inherently disrespectful. See e.g. generic phone spam callers. I'm sure the live humans there are struggling to feed their families and get by, so I don't really hold it against them. But I don't feel any qualms about blocking them and complaining about the lame companies that generate revenue by employing them.

>>jb1991+(OP)
I wish there was some common ground with me and recruitment companies where we both get what we need ... but that doesn't seem to be the case. Their motivation / goals seems to have nothing to do with me.

>>jonny_+29
I was impressed by your resume and think you'd be perfect for <irrelevant job>.

+1

Next...

>>azemet+r6
If you publicly listed your email on open source projects then you agreed to be contacted at that address regarding your work. That's the only inconsistency I see here. I hate recruiter spam just as much as you, but you can't both list an email publicly and also require consent to use said email. That's not how a phone book works.

>>jb1991+(OP)
Well, it's just the nature of zero cost (or more properly, fully externalized cost) for false positives. Recruiters in the wild have literally no reason not to be spammy, because it costs them absolutely nothing to be (and because everyone else is being spammy, so everyone assumes they're being spammy). It's a crappy tragedy-of-the-commons equilibrium for everyone involved - they don't much like it either, but don't feel like they have a choice.

>>dcow+rr
Man I’m not disagreeing. I just wish there was a term for tragedy of the digital commons. You see similar things from other fun aspects of the web that disappeared, like guests book or comments on blogs.