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I had a conversation with an HR friend of mine recently. According to her, she is inundated with fake requests for unemployment from people that never worked at her employer. Or people join, then quit promptly and apply for unemployment. This is in California.

I would think the state would have protections against this type of thing, but maybe not.

>>starik+(OP)
You have to be "unemployed through no fault of your own" to be eligible for unemployment.

https://edd.ca.gov/en/unemployment/eligibility/

>>starik+(OP)
The sibling comment includes a link to the requirements, but UI in California looks at your total income for the past twelve months. Quitting after a couple days wouldn't help.

>>Gartze+N2
Yes, that is the law. A nanny I employed in CA had put her two weeks in with us, then the last day of work she no-showed last minute. With two working parents you can imagine how well that was received. Anyhow, I told her to not come finish out her last day. So then she applies for unemployment a few weeks later. I got a notice from EDD and responded to it with the facts around her unemployment request, thinking surely they will deny her. There should have been two flags on her request: 1 - she quit, 2 - she no-showed the last day. It was processed and she was granted 26 weeks.

I think they are so overwhelmed at EDD that her request was just pushed along through the process. There are so many stories of fraud at EDD that you have to wonder how much time the claims processors are spending on each application.

>>pplant+t5
You can appeal the ruling, all the way up to presenting your case before a judge(at least in AZ).

>>joenat+37
Probably hard to justify spending the time to pursue it in most cases.

>>Gartze+N2
> You have to be "unemployed through no fault of your own" to be eligible for unemployment.

Technically, yes, but the system is so overwhelmed in many locations that unemployment requests are almost automatically approved. You have to work hard to appeal it after the fact and a lot of employers just give up.

>>gcheon+wc
I have and do, otherwise my unemployment insurance rates rise the following year, if that isn't a concern for you then sure. I also only fire for cause.

>>Gartze+N2
That's what I thought. Turns out constructive dismissal, choosing to quit due to poor conditions or breach of contract, qualifies for unemployment. I'd have quit a couple jobs way sooner if I'd been aware.

My claim in CA was approved in 2020; I don't recall if that language was on the page or not at the time. Although I never got paid anything due to ID verification failure later in the process (clogged phone lines meant I never learned the reason, I gave up after a few weeks and a couple snail mails).

I was also fired in 2016 and paid out at that time, having told the UI interviewer that the employer didn't follow their dispute resolution process (breach of contract, in retrospect).

>>pplant+t5
I have heard CA EDD is now sending out some letters requesting more information. They are probably backlogged, but they might respond.