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The reality is that hair styles on the left side of the image in the article are widely considered unprofessional in today's workplaces. That may seem egregiously wrong to you, but it is a truth of American and European society today. Should it be Google's job to rewrite reality?

>>ceeplu+(OP)
The "unprofessional" results are almost exclusively black women; the "professional" ones are almost exclusively white or light skinned.

Unless you think white women are immune to unprofessional hairstyles, and black women incapable of them, there's a race problem illustrated here even if you think the hairstyles illustrated are fairly categorized.

>>ceeplu+(OP)
In any case, Google will be writing their reality. Who picked the image sample for the ML to run on, if not Google? What's the problem with writing it again, then? They know their biases and want to act on it.

It's like blaming a friend for trying to phrase things nicely, and telling them to speak headlong with zero concern for others instead. Unless you believe anyone trying to do good is being hypocrite…

I, for one, like civility.

>>ceejay+q
If you type as a prompt "most beautiful woman in the world", you get a brown-skinned brown-haired woman with hazel eyes.

What should be the right answer then ?

You put a blonde, you offend the brown haired.

You put blue eyes, you offend the brown eyes.

etc.

>>rvnx+x2
That's an unanswerable question. Perhaps the answer is "don't".

Siri takes this approach for a wide range of queries.

>>ceeplu+(OP)
Only black people have unprofessional hair and only white people have professional hair is not reality.

>>ceejay+j3
How do you pick what should and shouldn't be restricted? Is there some "offense threshold"? I suspect all queries relating to religion, ethnicity, sexuality, and gender will need to be restricted, which almost certainly means you probably can't include humans at all, other than ones artificially inserted with mathematically proven random attributes. Maybe that's why none are in this demo.

>>ceejay+j3
I think the key is to take the information in this world with a little bit pinch of salt.

When you do a search on a search engine, the results are biased too, but still, they shouldn't be artificially censored to fit some political views.

I asked one algorithm few minutes ago (it's called t0pp and it's free to try online, and it's quite fascinating because it's uncensored):

"What is the name of the most beautiful man on Earth ?

- He is called Brad Pitt."

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Is it true in an objective way ? Probably not.

Is there an actual answer ? Probably yes, there is somewhere a man who scores better than the others.

Is it socially acceptable ? Probably not.

The question is:

If you interviewed 100 persons in the street, and asked the question "What is the name of the most beautiful man on Earth ?".

I'm pretty sure you'd get Brad Pitt often coming in.

Now, what about China ?

We don't have many examples there, they have no clue who is Brad Pitt probably, and there is probably someone else that is considered more beautiful by over 1B people

(t0pp tells me it's someone called "Zhu Zhu" :D )

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Two solutions:

1) Censorship

-> Sorry there is too much bias in Western and we don't want to offend anyone, no answer, or a generic overriding human answer that is safe for advertisers, but totally useless ("the most beautiful human is you")

2) Adding more examples

-> Work on adding more examples from abroad trying to get the "average human answer".

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I really prefer solution (2) in the core algorithms and dataset development, rather than going through (1).

(1) is more a choice to make at the stage when you are developing a virtual psychologist or a chat assistant, not when creating AI building blocks.

>>nomel+S6
"Is Taiwan a country" also comes to mind.

>>daenz+0a
What would a human who can freely speak without morale or being judged say on average after having ingested all the information on the internet ?

>>nomel+S6
These debates often seem to center around “most X in the world” questions, but I’d expect all of those to be unanswerable if you wanted to know the truth. Who’s done a study on it?

In this case you’re (mostly) getting keyword matches and so it’s answering a different question than the one you asked. It would be helpful if a question answering AI gave you the question it decided to answer instead of just pretending it paid full attention to you.