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1. recurs+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-05-17 15:12:29
I have given up: the iphone mini (which I own) is gargantuan.

There are a few glimmers of hope around the edges. Palm was interesting but too small (the primary problem was the battery, not the screen size). Unihertz is doing some interesting stuff in the small phone arena, but their stuff is either too small and thick (the jelly) or too big (titan). Their styling is also a bit funky in a 90's tech vibe sort of way that I'm not a huge fan of.

What I want is an iphone 4-sized phone that I can keep in my pocket w/o noticing and that provides the basics of smart phones. Even better if it could be an e-ink screen so I don't have to charge it very often.

I have accepted that I am a market of one.

replies(2): >>porcc+n4 >>code_d+on
2. porcc+n4[view] [source] 2022-05-17 15:31:40
>>recurs+(OP)
I'm with you! The litephone 2 is the closest we've gotten but at our market-size the software stability will likely be lacking.
replies(2): >>recurs+85 >>Middle+5x
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3. recurs+85[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 15:34:19
>>porcc+n4
a market of two, then

i have a litephone for my kids and it's too minimalistic, I'd still like maps, etc

if we could combine the styling of the palm, but a bit bigger and with much better battery w/ and e-ink display and decent battery life, I'd be in heaven

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4. code_d+on[view] [source] 2022-05-17 16:51:32
>>recurs+(OP)
I miss the iPhone 5. That was a great size and shape. Same width as the 4, just a bit longer of course.
replies(2): >>nicwol+BJ >>Gigach+nH1
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5. dansti+Iu[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 17:27:20
>>recurs+85
market of three

The litephone is too basic and the HiSense A5 etc do not work on US networks.

I looked at building a 5.2" e-ink phone for the US market and did some fun mock-ups, but it would be a huge undertaking with my limited hardware background. Smaller phones just have fundamental limits due to battery size that are difficult to work around, and Android has basically no e-ink support as it's such a niche type of display for a phone.

replies(1): >>recurs+p31
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6. Middle+5x[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 17:38:01
>>porcc+n4
I like the idea of the litephone except it's the opposite of what I use a phone for. I don't care much about phone calls, they're mostly useless except that my doorbell is hooked up to my phone (which is of course set to silent lol) and sometimes I need to talk to banks or recruiters. I want maps, chat apps, email, lyft, a browser, etc. but also to disable 99% of notifications 99% of the time.

Right now I still use my Palm Phone (PVG100) and I'm bummed that it looks like they won't release another one. Gonna use it until it's impossible for it to function in the modern world.

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7. nicwol+BJ[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 18:37:35
>>code_d+on
The "1st gen" SE is the same size as the 5, still available from e.g. Amazon for $100–$200, and runs the current iOS very well if a little slowly.
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8. recurs+p31[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 20:36:10
>>dansti+Iu
surely at some point a viable e-ink phone will be released in the US

surely :|

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9. redism+jm1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-17 22:43:43
>>nicwol+BJ
I ran those for many years but unfortunately the batteries are old and seem to only last a year these days
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10. Gigach+nH1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-18 01:57:24
>>code_d+on
I pulled a 5 out of my draw and was pleasantly surprised at the size and feel, but then I actually went to use it and it was quite bad. I wasn’t able to comfortably two hand the phone to type which meant my typing speed was massively reduced.

Personally I mostly use my phone two handed so even the pro max is usable even though I can’t reach all areas with one hand.

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11. hedora+JY1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-18 05:26:34
>>redism+jm1
Why not go to an Apple Store, and buy a new battery?
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12. hansel+Ox2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-05-18 12:02:59
>>redism+jm1
running with 1st gen se since fall 2018: battery is still at 95%

replacement kit from ifixit is available thou

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