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Shameless plug for the Jelly 2. https://www.unihertz.com/products/jelly-2

It's not a "flagship" but it is fully featured - nothing spared - and half the size of my palm. The screen is just small enough to be too annoying to do anything really distracting on. I have gotten NOTHING but compliments on it since I started using it a month ago (on a reco I picked up here).

>>hammoc+(OP)
> It's not a "flagship" but it is fully featured - nothing spared - and half the size of my palm

How does it compare to the palm phone PVG100, usually available for 1/3 of the price? (new but in OEM box)

It seems much thicker.

Also, which network are you using?

https://www.unihertz.com/blogs/news/about-at-t-usage-in-the-...

> Recently, AT&T released a whitelist of smartphone brands that will continue to work on their network after February 2022. Unfortunately, Unihertz products are not among them.

I hope someone sues AT&T for its discriminative policy.

>>hammoc+(OP)
Oh man, that thing is _adorable_ and the price is certainly right.

(Unfortunately I am personally looking for something in between this and today's "phablets".)

>>hammoc+(OP)
> The screen is just small enough to be too annoying to do anything really distracting on

I'm a happy user of Jelly 2 for a half year now and I bought it for this single reason. It's fully featured so you can do anything, but the screen is so small that you do it only when there's a real need, so I'm not wasting time staring at the phone for no real reason.

Cons: My co-workers make fun of me :)

Edit: formatting

>>hammoc+(OP)
Do you have any issues with apps and layouts misbehaving because of the small screen? Being annoying to type on is a feature, but is it basically impossible?

>>hammoc+(OP)
I have a Unihertz Titan Pocket (physical keyboard). I'm planning to get the new slim model when it comes out.

These are top of the line phones, but they're very solid. Unihertz is making some good devices.

>>hammoc+(OP)
One concern with a very small phone is that it necessarily has a very small battery. If you can charge frequently, or you only use the phone for an occasional text message it may be OK for you, but if you're checking it every few minutes and active on social media you'll likely not be happy with it.

>>SkyPun+i5
The Titan Pocket looks amazing but I'm a bit unsure about the company's track record regarding android updates. Do you get regular security updates?

>>hammoc+(OP)
<3 this is awesome! It even has NFC! So you can use Google Pay with it? WiFi calling? Looks like the perfect Google Fi and international travel phone too with all the bands it supports.

>>hammoc+(OP)
Thanks for posting that. At first glance, it looks like one of those $20 burner phones from 7-Eleven, but looking more closely, it seems much better than that.

Love the idea of the IR remote. I miss that from my PalmPilot.

>>hammoc+(OP)
Is it waterproof? A small phone like this would be ideal for working out or hiking. But between sweat and rain, I'd want it to be waterproof for those scenarios.

>>bityar+M2
Unihertz has some other phones in different sizes, like the ruggedized Atom L/XL with a 4" screen.

>>mcdonj+4c
Haven't tested it. It has a headphone jack so probably not waterproof

>>dolive+Z4
Sometimes websites with big popups fuck with you, but then again we ought to be avoiding those websites anyway. I haven't noticed any issues with apps.

Typing is much easier than you would think. With swipe typing it's almost at par.

>>SoftTa+56
With regular use the battery lasts about as long as the iPhone 13 Pro, that is to say, slightly less than a full day. But the point of this phone is that ideally you are using it less.

>>hammoc+(OP)
I think I might actually get this. How well does this work with Google Fi?

So years and years ago, when my main phone was a Nokia N900, I would occasionally walk into phone stores and see what was out there out of sheer curiosity. One day I saw an HTC Wildfire S, and I fell in love with the form factor right away. Unfortunately, I never bought it because I had my N900 and it was just too damn useful to justify giving it up for a cheap Android phone, and to this day I regret not buying one. It was so small and so cute and I wanted it, and now even if I do buy a used one on eBay it'll just be a glorified brick because it doesn't have LTE and no apps will run on its ancient version of Android. This is the closest thing I've ever seen to the HTC Wildfire S since... I think I actually will buy it, at least as a backup device.

>>csdvrx+t2
Verizon. Not familiar with PVG100, looks interesting though. Thanks for the tip

>>hammoc+(OP)
I have a unihertz Atom XL.

Pros:

- Battery lasts for 3 days with my usage (browsing when not at my desk, whatsapp, a handful of calls, android auto)

- Rugged / waterproof (IP68)

- Fits nicely in your hand

- 48 MP camera - not as good as Pixels, but good

- Good dual SIM setup

Cons:

- Thick; probably mostly due to the battery. Doesn't bother me, but if you wear skinny jeans and carry your phone in your front pocket it'll be noticeable

- Just got Android 11

- The built in walkie talkie is something of a gimmick since it chews up battery in standby/monitor mode. I thought it would be a useful backup since we live in the sticks w/o reliable phone signal. Get the Atom L instead

>>SkyPun+i5
How long does the battery last? Does the phone feel thick in your pocket? (From the photos, it looks like the device is about the same width and height as a 2020 iPhone SE but significantly thicker.)

>>hammoc+Ee
Cool. What about typing passwords, codes, numbers? I'd wager without social media those would be the most common things I'd type

>>hammoc+ge
Thanks. You're probably right. After my comment, I found the rest of their lineup, and it looks like the one that would suit my needs is the Atom: https://www.unihertz.com/products/atom

>>dolive+ui
Lastpass mostly prevents needing to manually enter login info, even though the automatic activation only works 70% of the time.

>>dolive+ui
I save everything in Google, which helps me autofill passwords, credit cards, addresses, emails, etc.. ducks

>>arkad+g3
They're just Jelly

>>smalle+qg
I had the Atom until AT&T said it wasn't compatible with their 5G forced switch over. Now I have the cheapest android they offer until I can find something else.

I had an original Jelly but battery life was miserable.

>>SoftTa+56
Why not use the third dimension and make it thicker to fit a decent battery?

>>hammoc+(OP)
I love my Jelly 2. The only thing that it skimped on was the camera. The primary camera is worse than my Moto G5 was. It's adequate for my primary usage of "taking pictures of things I need to remember (serial numbers, receipts &c)" but nearly useless as a general purpose photography tool.

>>hammoc+(OP)
+1 for the jelly 2. It works perfectly for everything I "need" a smart phone for.

Just be aware the the Wifi often drops and battery life is 1.5 days at best. But again, makes it really easy to not do anything distracting on it lol

>>dolive+ui
I have one too, and I was suprised by how "not bad" it is for this. I can reach each key with my thumb, so I get muscle memory for each letter. The only issue I have is hitting W instead of E, as E is super common and it's far from the lower right corner.

I also use bitwarden for passwords, so the main thing I type without swype is the passphrase for bitwarden, and proper names that autocorrect will then proceed to change to the wrong thing afterwards anyways (just like a big android phone).

>>dolive+Z4
I have one too. The main issue I have is some dialogs will need scrolling to see all options (FairEmail is the worst offender of the apps I use).

>>hammoc+(OP)
I also have a Jelly 2, I really like it and I used it as my main phone for a month.

The reason I switched back to my Samsung Galaxy is because I changed job and will need to use it for work, and frankly the Jelly is just too small to be efficient.

It is otherwise an amazing little phone.

>>ourman+OA
You could also switch to T-mobile or Verizon. Though you probably already thought of that.

>>hammoc+(OP)
Can you release the kernel sources? Thanks.

>>dskloe+7F
Thicker would not be an issue for me (up to a point). Especially on a very small phone. Would probably make it easier to hold.

>>hammoc+Pf
> Verizon

Then just get a PVG100, it supports all the features as it was made for this network!

>>eikenb+cO
Yeah, in my area T-Mobile isn't. And Verizon is amazing but triple what I'm paying now.

>>SoftTa+56
I didn't find this to be true with the XZ1 Compact, and it in fact consistently outlasted everyone else's phones despite similar use profiles.

>>arkad+g3
I can imagine there will often be comments along the line of „What’s that, a phone for ants?“

>>giaour+oh
Battery last _very long_. Probably 2+ days on a full charge. I don't actually know. It last so long that I don't really have to worry about it.

Size profile is basically the same as an old school Blackberry. No problems with it.

>>hammoc+(OP)
love it. looks like a phone you can throw across the room

>>ourman+zX
Don't know if you checked recently but Verizon was always way more expensive here as well but about a year or so ago we noticed they had started offering must more competitive pricing for families/individuals.

>>ourman+zX
Check MVNOs out, if you want Verizon service without Verizon pricing. US Mobile and Red Pocket are two that I'd suggest.

>>hammoc+(OP)
This looks great. I left my Pixel 2 for a Nokia flip phone running KaiOS for half of 2021, but the OS was underwhelming, with broken WebDav syncing that required me to manually import contacts and forgo my calendar.

I then upgraded to an iPhone SE, but miss Android apps like Termux, PDANet, and MiXplorer. iOS lacks compelling alternatives: A-Shell, iOS-Socks-Proxy (running in A-Shell), and Apple Files + Readdle's Documents are decent, but don't measure up to the aforementioned Android apps.

All that makes the Jelly 2 an attractive choice. It ticks the essential smartphone boxes but discourages excessive use (doom scrolling, Instagram, TikTok, Hacker News, etc).

>>eikenb+Pn1
I used to have Verizon so I get emails and flyers touting plans starting at $90/month (but only for the first year).

Except I'm on AT&T pay-as-you-go for $30/month so I don't even look anymore.

>>brnaft+uY
I'm still using one, and the battery still lasts 2+ days between charges. All these people saying we can't have a compact phone with decent battery life, a headphone jack and an SD card slot are either uninformed or weirdly disingenuous.

>>aidenn+gK
A good camera is the literal sole reason I still have an iPhone as an option alongside my Jelly 2

>>sanity+ff2
That's good to know. My impression was based on other comments I had read (in particular about the Unihertz Jelly) and it seeming to make sense intuitively.