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"WiFi works, no setup required beyond selecting a network and entering the password. Calling works, no setup required beyond installing a SIM card and rebooting. SMS works, no setup required beyond installing a SIM card and rebooting."

Interesting, possibly useful as a daily driver.

Also: link for the best pro comment about linux phones I've read on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26080871

>>marcod+(OP)
Battery life seems to be the biggest thing holding it back from a daily driver for myself.

Afternoon to 10pm with light use, so around 8 hours. Would be curious to see how long it last with maps and music going.

>>frankb+f1
Around 8-10 hours is what I usually see myself as well. Up to 16 hours with everything off and idling (but without suspend, as that's not enabled yet).

[edit] I've been listening to music via Bluetooth on it for past three hours and it's at 75% right now.

>>marcod+(OP)
Thanks for the link. Most of those points are still true, except for the middle three about SMS/MMS.

If your distro ships the latest version of Chatty alongside mmsd-tng[0], SMS as well as MMS (both bidirectional) work supremely well, I trialed it as a daily driver for all of last month and didn't drop a single SMS/MMS. MMS attachments (images, didn't try video), group chats, everything was fine.

I still had to configure APN settings manually, but there was no faffing about on the command line, it just worked. All the other points, though, yeah... those are still accurate.

[0] https://gitlab.com/kop316/mmsd

Edit for clarity: this comment (and the link in the parent) references the PinePhone, not the Librem 5, though they're roughly comparable devices

>>marcod+(OP)
I'm curious how the pinephone pro compares, I've been thinking of buying it.

>>marcod+(OP)
I would be curious if this works as in "associated and holds on for dear life to 1 AP"

Or "is able to roam across a house with a few AP's or a business with many"

>>branon+c7
I'm glad to hear MMS works so well for you! Usually other than my own usage, I don't hear too often about folks for whom it works for, usually only issues or help supporting it.

Chatty used to use a libpurple plugin, but the dev realized the issues that came with it (as the old comment outlined), and it was moved into Chatty proper, which also allowed for a much cleaner SMS/MMS implementation too.

> MMS attachments (images, didn't try video), group chats, everything was fine.

MMS on Chatty actually supports arbietrary attachments, so you could send a binary file, a PDF, Video, whatever. Android and iOS will not understand them, but you can send it to another Librem 5 or Pinephone. One neat thing I tried was to use GPG over MMS. It was successful, though very manually intensive. There was thought into making GPG over MMS transparent in Chatty: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/chatty/-/issues/671

>>ad404b+H7
I have it (explorer edition), it's more powerful but right now camera does not work. Has a problem of waking from sleep too.

I've tried different setups eg. Manjaro/KDE (default), Arch/Mobian Phosh. KDE is more like a phone, Phosh is "more stable" and particularly my interest external display which is buggy.

Regarding battery I have now just started to remove them from the phone rather than putting it in Airplane mode because it still dies too fast.

The squad [0]

I have Mobian/Phosh running on SD card, see the 6 cores and 4 GB of RAM [1]

I use Tmobile for service cheap sms/call only plan

I don't use it as a daily driver yet, like install an email client and things like that. Was more interested in docked computing as a desktop. I know about Samsung Dex but I'm still onboard for a new OS, I'm particularly annoyed with forced bloat/permission issues (some understandable).

[0] https://i.imgur.com/5ngUibq.png

[1] https://i.imgur.com/A2x3x1t.png

>>ad404b+H7
The Pinephone Pro's software support is will a WIP. It mostly works, but there are still quite a few quirks before I would feel comfortable using at as a daily driver. (For comparision, I have no qualms using a Pinephone or Librem 5 as a daily driver, I currently am using my Librem 5 as my main phone).

>>ad404b+H7
Can recommend to try out SXMO [1] which is very lightweight and doesn't have the same long lags as phosh has.

[1] https://sxmo.org

>>frankb+f1
Using several batteries seems to be the best option... but Purism doesn't seem to sell external battery chargers ?