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1. pshc+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-02-08 21:57:33
Yeah, a hardware wallet is good, although for a billion dollars, 100 hardware wallets would be better. Could even go so far as to split a private key into seven horcruxes using Shamir's Secret Sharing and bury them in locations around the world.

Memorizing a seed phrase leaves you vulnerable to a $5 wrench attack, I wouldn't recommend it.

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2. GekkeP+K2[view] [source] 2022-02-08 22:09:47
>>pshc+(OP)
> Memorizing a seed phrase leaves you vulnerable to a $5 wrench attack, I wouldn't recommend it.

Of course the problem is the attacker may not know what method you used and resort to the $5 wrench attack anyway :)

Not stealing $3.6B might be an even safer bet.

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3. hnburn+66[view] [source] 2022-02-08 22:27:04
>>pshc+(OP)
The famous Bitcoin family reportedly spread their hardware wallets across the globe.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/11/bitcoin-family-hides-bitcoin...

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4. rlt+L8[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-02-08 22:43:24
>>hnburn+66
The article suggests each location contains 100% of the key, not using Shamir’s Secret Sharing.

> Taihuttu is trying to put a crypto cold wallet on every continent so it’s easier to access his holdings.

I hope it’s at least encrypted with an additional passphrase, otherwise it’s only as strong as the weakest bank’s security.

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5. pshc+Q8[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-02-08 22:43:46
>>hnburn+66
Wow.

> Taihuttu has two hiding spots in Europe, another two in Asia, one in South America, and a sixth in Australia.

> We aren’t talking buried treasure – none of the sites are below ground or on a remote island – but the family told CNBC the crypto stashes are hidden in different ways and in a variety of locations, ranging from rental apartments and friends’ homes to self-storage sites.

I hope this is all a decoy or else it’s the worst opsec I’ve seen since about five hours ago.

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6. mbesto+2c[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-02-08 23:01:08
>>hnburn+66
Or the Winklevoss twins who store their codes in separate banks across the country.
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7. dboat+Fj[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-02-08 23:52:11
>>pshc+Q8
I would not want to be a friend to the sort of idiots who would say stuff like this. Having a target painted on my back as a decoy somehow makes it even worse.
8. weq+7k[view] [source] 2022-02-08 23:58:16
>>pshc+(OP)
Reminds me of the man who was sent to jail for refusing to reveal his keys. think this happens alot.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/man-who-refused-...

9. nether+cN[view] [source] 2022-02-09 03:30:36
>>pshc+(OP)
You don’t need splitting the private key. Bitcoin has multisig setup. For example, you can setup your wallet such that 6 out of 10 private keys need to sign in order to transfer funds. Spread that 10 private keys out. Or 3 out of 10. Or 2 out of 5. Any n out of m.
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10. pshc+YQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-02-09 04:01:39
>>nether+cN
You're right, gathering multisigs would be much safer than gathering SSS shares because you wouldn't be carrying around bits of the private key.
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11. mekste+C41[view] [source] 2022-02-09 06:07:31
>>pshc+(OP)
For the attacker, the problem isn't about protecting the crypto but to launder.

If gov got to you, it probably doesn't matter how well you got it protected.

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12. sratne+Q51[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-02-09 06:19:23
>>pshc+YQ
Any single SSS share does not disclose any additional information about the private key (i.e. it is not like splitting the key itself into parts).
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13. Mayeul+Tn1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-02-09 09:23:15
>>sratne+Q51
And SSS also allows n out of m.
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14. jerrre+Cr1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-02-09 10:00:44
>>GekkeP+K2
still: physical threat + seed phrase cracked > physical threat
15. croon+zC1[view] [source] 2022-02-09 11:52:03
>>pshc+(OP)
You're still memorizing the seven locations around the world. It's the same thing with extra steps.
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