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1. wmf+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-01-09 03:45:47
But if you don't like Pluton, I have bad news for you about Macs, Chromebooks, and most Android phones.
replies(2): >>Shadon+Y3 >>floatb+7T
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2. Shadon+Y3[view] [source] 2022-01-09 04:21:13
>>wmf+(OP)
that's the thing, it doesn't really matter

it's not YOUR OS, it's their product, you not forced to use any of their products

linux and voila, you got your freedom back

replies(1): >>mrjin+7q
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3. mrjin+7q[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-09 08:27:18
>>Shadon+Y3
Kinda, but not completely. The problem is really with the hardware, switching OS can only alleviate but not resolving it. But really, we don't have choices unless we want to stay with fairly old platforms.
replies(1): >>fsflov+5H
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4. fsflov+5H[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-09 11:54:50
>>mrjin+7q
Unless you support Linux-first hardware vendors.
replies(1): >>toasta+bT
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5. floatb+7T[view] [source] 2022-01-09 13:57:14
>>wmf+(OP)
Chromebooks give you full flashing & serial console access for both AP (main CPU) and EC over an SBU cable, run open source firmware on both AP and EC (modulo FSP/AGESA), even run open source firmware on the root of trust (you can't replace that one with an unsigned build on a retail device but you can study it for sure).

Apple silicon Macs have the main CPU cores fully in control, with zero external peripherals having full DMA access to system RAM (everything goes through IOMMU), and have an interesting secureboot architecture that allows different security levels on different OS installations (you can run unsecured Linux side-by-side with a fully Netflix-ready macOS).

I have much worse news about the typical Intel BootGuard'ed PC laptop.

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6. toasta+bT[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-09 13:57:44
>>fsflov+5H
I would love to, but unfortunately a lot of the laptop hardware is pretty garbage in comparison. I can deal with a slower CPU maybe, but it's the whole stack. The bodies are all cheap plastic. Battery lasts 3 hours. And you have only like 1080p TN panels; nothing OLED or with color accuracy in mind is on these. Similar feelings extend to phones as well.
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7. fsflov+qQ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-09 20:14:50
>>toasta+bT
Consider this: https://puri.sm/products/librem-14. Not plastic. It's 1080p, but for 14" it should be fine for most people. Supports two external 4k screen AFAIK.
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8. toasta+o77[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-11 03:39:47
>>fsflov+qQ1
I hadn't seen that SKU yet and the aluminum chassis looks good. Comparing Comet Lake to Tiger/Alder Lakes is disappointing for performance/battery/graphics. No USB4/Thunderbolt. The display also doesn't list the sRGB and DCI-P3 color space coverage which I can only assume it is a generic panel with <100% of both and is a complete show-stopper to me. If I wanted a cheap display and instead plug in to nice monitors, I'd just buy a desktop; the screen is probably the most important piece.
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