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1. saddle+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-01-06 01:55:42
Facebook does not maintain "accounts" on non-users in a meaningful way and they have stated this multiple times to multiple regulators [1]. An email campaign being sent to an intersection of a bunch of users's contacts is not evidence of "phantom accounts".

[1] https://about.fb.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/06/fina...

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2. tw04+R[view] [source] 2022-01-06 02:02:01
>>saddle+(OP)
You mean the Facebook that paid $4.9 Billion to protect their CEO from government scrutiny? The facebook that stated multiple times to multiple regulators that they would not use whatsapp user data for ad serving purposes.... and then they did it anyway?

Pardon my skepticism if your only source of truth is "Facebook told regulators".

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3. msbarn+61[view] [source] 2022-01-06 02:03:02
>>saddle+(OP)
> Facebook does not maintain "accounts" on non-users in a meaningful way and they have stated this multiple times to multiple regulators

And surely they'd never mislead anybody regarding what data they keep.

Which admittedly makes it a bit hard to explain how, despite having completely deleted my account several years ago (yes, not just deactivated, I went through all the little guilt-trip pleas not to delete), they managed to accidentally (a bug, presumably) send me a Friend Suggestion email several weeks ago (suggesting someone I actually do know, no less) considering that by their own words they should have wiped both that email address and the social graph associated with it several years earlier...

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4. lnxg33+c1[view] [source] 2022-01-06 02:03:29
>>saddle+(OP)
We trust what facebook says because it's a trustworthy company that never lied to anyone, right?
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5. looset+02[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 02:10:34
>>msbarn+61
Same boat - I get really frustrated by the “someone tried to access your account” emails from Facebook.

Oh, you mean the account that you confirmed as deleted 8+ years ago??

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6. saddle+Aa[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 03:07:40
>>tw04+R
The choice is between multiple regulatory investigations not actioning this specific issue over multiple years of the some of the most intense global scrutiny on a company in recent history verses believing somebody's tangentially related anecdote.
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7. Camper+Of[view] [source] 2022-01-06 03:47:34
>>saddle+(OP)
BS. I 'deleted' my Facebook account years ago, but my GF still gets "Wish $first_name a happy $year-1900+$suffix birthday!" emails every January 1. The emails still include a thumbnail of the photo from my account.

Facebook doesn't delete shit. If you work at Facebook, you need to evaluate the ethical course of your life and career and reconsider the choices that led you to this place. There are other employers that pay almost as well and that don't treat 1984 like a mission statement.

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8. kjells+dk[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 04:25:37
>>saddle+Aa
You might be right or wrong, i dont know, bjt i can say with great certainty that a regulator doing nothing in the face of multiple credible accusations has no relationship to whether those accusations are true or not. Sometimes the regulator is overloaded/backlogged, sometimes they have been captured by the industry they regulate, sometimes there is pressure applied to not investigate, and do on. But it need not mean tbat there was no wrongdoing.
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9. kjs3+Ek[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 04:30:44
>>Camper+Of
Yeah...OP is a shill. And "Facebook" on a resume isn't a positive for many of us.
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10. Ostrog+Hq[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 05:23:40
>>Camper+Of
Expect Yann LeCun to appear at any minute to say he is practically a saint for working at Facebook that he is doing it for the betterment of humanity and not for money since he could "earn much more at many other companies"
11. dfghdf+lL[view] [source] 2022-01-06 09:01:39
>>saddle+(OP)
And you believe Facebook's statements why?
12. rvense+7Z[view] [source] 2022-01-06 10:43:38
>>saddle+(OP)
Yeah, it's not in the same table in the database as the regular accounts, so they don't have "accounts".

There's still a list of names and a bunch of data. No question.

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