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1. kevmo+(OP)[view] [source] 2022-01-06 00:56:28
We desperately need laws around this.
replies(3): >>pvaran+k1 >>kleer0+G1 >>icefox+t3
2. pvaran+k1[view] [source] 2022-01-06 01:07:04
>>kevmo+(OP)
They are already known to not be in compliance with many laws that already exist.
replies(2): >>ajsnig+S4 >>cwkoss+xa
3. kleer0+G1[view] [source] 2022-01-06 01:08:45
>>kevmo+(OP)
nah, nuke it from orbit, that's the only way to be sure.
replies(1): >>dylan6+q7
4. icefox+t3[view] [source] 2022-01-06 01:21:48
>>kevmo+(OP)
I can't help myself but enjoy the way people think that "laws" is something like a Death Note of sorts. You write it down and the world automagically adjusts itself.
replies(1): >>Nextgr+w21
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5. ajsnig+S4[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 01:32:01
>>pvaran+k1
We need enforcement, and we need fines high enough, to make this not worth it.
replies(2): >>bigjim+27 >>lmkg+gu
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6. bigjim+27[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 01:47:06
>>ajsnig+S4
Fines? How about prison time for stalking?
replies(1): >>sodali+Ak
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7. dylan6+q7[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 01:49:58
>>kleer0+G1
I'm okay with the collateral damage this would cause.
replies(1): >>kleer0+oC
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8. cwkoss+xa[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 02:14:11
>>pvaran+k1
Which ones?
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9. sodali+Ak[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 03:21:23
>>bigjim+27
Exactly. Always read "fines" as "business expenses" if it's in this context. Especially w.r.t FAANG, in which case it's laughably small business expenses. Occasionally they'll be serious but never enough..
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10. lmkg+gu[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 04:44:42
>>ajsnig+S4
Whatsapp (owned by Facebook) was fined 225 million Euros for GDPR violations, the largest GDPR fine to date. Of that, 75 million was specifically for harvesting info from contact lists.
replies(2): >>durnyg+eF >>Nextgr+k21
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11. kleer0+oC[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 05:59:49
>>dylan6+q7
Sure, whole countries would be in chaos... but only for a few days, I think. FB isn't doing anything original anymore. There's tons of clones and some are markedly better.

Yea, maybe a few businesses would fail, maybe some people would lose contact with old friends. But if fb is the only way you keep in contact with someone, do you really care about them?

Cost benefit analysis is easy to do, actually pulling the trigger is hard.

replies(1): >>dylan6+en2
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12. durnyg+eF[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 06:35:06
>>lmkg+gu
> harvesting info from contact lists

I'm certain LinkedIn was doing it as well, ie. dark patterns to upload contact list then aggressively harvesting new users.

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13. Nextgr+k21[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 10:07:23
>>lmkg+gu
It appears it's nowhere near enough though. Not to mention, Facebook (the main beneficiary of all the illicit data collection) gets away scot-free.
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14. Nextgr+w21[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 10:08:48
>>icefox+t3
Sometimes you need to help the world adjust, with people carrying guns.
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15. dylan6+en2[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-06 17:39:59
>>kleer0+oC
>actually pulling the trigger is hard.

I'll push the damn button, no problem. Just show me where it is. However, I'm guessing it's harder to find and is actually split into 7 horrocruxes.

replies(1): >>kleer0+LZ3
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16. kleer0+LZ3[view] [source] [discussion] 2022-01-07 00:40:20
>>dylan6+en2
Sure, you and I could push the button. But we're not in a position to do so.

Now, all the people in a position to do so are chained by perverse incentives to keep the whole shit show going.

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