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1. mihaic+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-12-17 00:30:48
OSS fanboys have been hailing the coming of Linux on personal computers for years, but it just looks like Windows 11 might be the thing that makes it real, forcing it finally to mature.

This is not Vista times, where you can easily get away with a bad OS generation. For the first time in about 12 years I'm dual booting Win 10 and KDE on Ubuntu, and it actually feels like a usable and practical setup.

Win 11 really seems to be hateful of users almost. Does it have a target audience anymore, or is it now designed by Mac users that work at MS? Seems like almost everyone should stay on Win 10 or migrate to Mac or Linux. The greatest strength Windows had was that developers could mess around while non-techies would always have a way to do whatever work they needed.

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2. bshipp+T1[view] [source] 2021-12-17 00:44:51
>>mihaic+(OP)
I had to install the last Win 11 release candidate the week before the official release because I needed a new function in WSL2 that was simply unavailable without being part of the "Insiders Program".

I gave it a week instead of a day because I'm old and change is difficult but, if anything, the productivity impacts of their design choices were even more apparent at the end of that week.

Force tab grouping on the Taskbar? That stupid half context menu that requires an additional click to reach the real context menu?

Everything seemed designed to take at least two more clicks than Win10 while offering worse situational awareness as to what was open on my workstation.

I agree, Win11 is not a love letter to users. It's a drunken 3AM rant.

3. nptelj+b51[view] [source] 2021-12-17 10:18:46
>>mihaic+(OP)
They have plenty of time and moat to get away with it. The success of Windows is not because people like it, but because it's the de facto standard PC OS. Drivers are built for Windows, computers come preinstalled with Windows, schools teach Windows and Office, businesses are already invested in Windows. This is not going to change just because Windows is somewhat annoying.
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4. mihaic+LY1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-12-17 15:42:25
>>nptelj+b51
This has been the case for decades, but it can't be this way forever -- even Cobol apps get rewritten sometimes.

I've been a lifelong Windows user, but I honestly can't see myself installing Win 11, even for my parents.

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5. nptelj+4u2[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-12-17 17:49:40
>>mihaic+LY1
Even if Windows market share dwindles, just imagine how many legacy systems are still running on it. These systems, along with the support contract Microsoft negotiated with them, are what will keep them alive indefinitely. Not forever, of course, but the end is not soon either.
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