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1. dragon+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-12-16 17:31:09
Alder Lake needed a new scheduler.

So any 12th generation Intel build will greatly benefit from Win11 scheduler over Win10.

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2. joseph+C[view] [source] 2021-12-16 17:33:18
>>dragon+(OP)
Microsoft could have given us the new scheduler without all the antifeatures, but they didn't.
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3. cronix+Ca[view] [source] 2021-12-16 18:13:05
>>dragon+(OP)
This is my first PC build, out of about 15-20 or so in the last 30 years going back to the 386sx16, that does not have an intel processor. I'm very happy with the price/performance of the 5950x.
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4. jaywal+tc[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-12-16 18:20:50
>>joseph+C
You can say that about the vast majority of upgrades that come with a new OS version if you isolate them. But at the end of the day, they are going to end up bundling a bunch of upgrades together to form a new OS version for a variety of reasons that usually aren't strictly technical.
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5. dragon+jd[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-12-16 18:24:12
>>cronix+Ca
Eventually, AMD's architecture is going to change and the OS will need a shift with it.

Intel just had a major change between gen11 and gen12, so its the most obvious technical reason that warrants an update. But AMD Zen4 (or whatever happens for Zen5) could also need a similar scheduler update... or if not, maybe some other I/O change.

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If your hardware never changes, you can keep using the OS from years and years ago.

But as hardware details change, it only makes sense to update the OS with the hardware. Just as Linux 5.x has all sorts of updates over Linux 4 or Linux 3, so too does Windows need to change to keep up with the pace of hardware changes.

6. grishk+zo[view] [source] 2021-12-16 19:13:16
>>dragon+(OP)
Can you use the kernel from win11 with win10 (or even 7) userspace, or are NT kernels not interchangeable like this?
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7. pradn+Dq[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-12-16 19:23:39
>>grishk+zo
I'm surprised you're asking this because it's quite optimistic. No, it's not possible. The best you can do is probably patching Win11 to somehow use Win10-ish UI features.
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8. virapt+8G[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-12-16 20:37:38
>>joseph+C
That was the original plan with win10 being the rolling "last version". It's a shame they reverted.
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9. userbi+6v1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-12-17 01:45:30
>>pradn+Dq
I'm going to say that it probably is... the question is whether anyone is motivated enough to do it. Microsoft's culture of back-compat is not only for third-party applications, so it shouldn't be surprising that e.g. various apps from an older version of Windows would run on a newer one. I use the XP calc.exe on Win10, for example.

The somewhat-underground far-East communities have made weird chimeras of different Windows versions. I've seen Windows XP explorer.exe running on a Windows 7 kernel. No idea how stable or usable that is, but it's been done before.

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10. Pikach+3A1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-12-17 02:37:19
>>cronix+Ca
I will use AMD for my next PC build too

Kind of waiting for Zen 3 with 3D V-Cache or even Zen 4 next year

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