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1. toast0+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-11-11 08:43:20
Depends on the class and the student.

I remember my highschool chem teacher harping on the class after every test "I'd like to tell you all that if you don't do the homework, you won't pass the test, but toast0 didn't do the homework and did the best on the test so do the work" (or something like that). To be fair, I'd look at the homework, I just didn't feel like writing it down and turning it in, most of the time, so for classes where grading let me skip homework and I felt I had a good grasp of the material, I skipped it.

But, for kids like me, we'll succeed im school as long as there aren't active roadblocks from staff (or other students or other life issues). I think the real question is how to help the kids that need help. How do we get them motivated and engaged and empowered to learn the material?

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2. Walter+dC1[view] [source] 2021-11-11 19:27:50
>>toast0+(OP)
There were a (very small) handful of students at Caltech who would do well on the tests without doing the homework (or even attending lectures). Hal Finney (yes, that guy!) was one of them.

I certainly was not.

> for kids like me, we'll succeed im school as long as there aren't active roadblocks from staff

I did get some roadblocks from some the staff. I did well in spite of the staff's efforts :-) My biology teacher disliked me (for good reason, I was a jerk), and told me he was going to be very hard on my grades. If an assignment was subjective, he'd give me a bad grade. If it was objective, he was forced to give me As. Fortunately for me, nearly all the assignments and tests were simple checkboxes.

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