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I mean, even in the case that occurs, what is the endgame? Fine China? Sanction China? Demand accountability from China? Not happening, not when they make everyone's chips among other things.

Can someone enlighten me about the value of this theory? It just seems like another vector of anti-establishment distrust discourse with a more intelligent veneer; easy to profit off of (clicks, book sales, etc) and doesn't require a conclusion.

>>imbnwa+(OP)
They don't "make everyone's chip's"... that would be Taiwan.

Regarding what should be done: stop giving money to China for GoF research would be a great start...

>>jtdev+Y
GoF? Is China still caught in the OO Design Pattern trap?

>>imbnwa+(OP)
The value is to inform the larger discussion of the risks and benefits of gain of function research.

>>imbnwa+(OP)
Perhaps if we have zero recourse against China in this sort of situation, then the first step would be to work to remove the conditions that lead to that lack of recourse.

>>imbnwa+(OP)
The leaks reveal the confidence of a proposal and path to accomplish the genetic manipulation that Daszak and his associates have been aggressively refuting. This information contradicts those previous statements. It appears Daszak may have conflicts of interest that need more investigation.

>>speed_+s7
Gain of Function.

>>imbnwa+(OP)
If this were true, the US is also involved. That would mean both countries are responsible.

>>imbnwa+(OP)
> Fine China? Sanction China? Demand accountability from China?

If China caused this and then lied about it, there would absolutely be geopolitical will to organize and extract concessions.

>>imbnwa+(OP)
This was a proposal to DARPA from a US-based group so the "if it came from the Wuhan lab we need to deal with China" part of the common reaction to the lab-origins idea seems wildly unfounded.

If it came from a lab - hell, even if it DIDN'T come from a lab, but could have - then we need to globally think about what sort of things we're doing and how safely we can do them.