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1. jackfo+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-09-19 21:09:10
It's pretty easy to find old video clips of both Biden and Harris talking very skeptically about how fast a vaccine could be rolled out, its efficacy, and safety before they won the election. Contrast with the administration's policy today.
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2. rjbwor+Es[view] [source] 2021-09-20 02:00:01
>>jackfo+(OP)
Being skeptical of a hypothetical like that is fine. Once the vaccine came out and was shown to be efficacious, they updated their opinions with the data. This is exactly the manner in which one would hope, and indeed expect, their political leaders to behave. To do otherwise is pure reality-denying insanity.

I was also very skeptical of the speed at which a vaccine could be created and rolled out. But, once it was rolled out and it was shown to be reasonably safe, certainly far safer than actually getting COVID, I went and got the jab. These are not hypocritical or diametrically opposed viewpoints and actions. They are the behaviors of someone living in reality, with all of the uncertainty that entails.

3. mbrode+lA3[view] [source] 2021-09-21 03:12:07
>>jackfo+(OP)
I change my mind when facts/reality change. What do you do?
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4. jackfo+o65[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-21 17:43:51
>>mbrode+lA3
> I change my mind when facts/reality change. What do you do?

Exactly this.

Which is why I remain skeptical. My elderly father had a massive stroke 3 days after receiving the second shot, which was administered right after he recovered from covid, which he contracted after the first shot.

I'm also certain his care givers did not report this to the FDA's voluntary MedWatch database, which is the only way the government is tracking adverse events.

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5. mbrode+Ro6[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-22 02:34:00
>>jackfo+o65
Do you know the difference between Causality and Correlation?
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6. jackfo+mg8[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-22 18:11:28
>>mbrode+Ro6
Edit: Yes. And I know the difference between evidence and proof and even the difference between skepticism and certainty.

I also recognize ad hominem arguments.

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7. mbrode+ut9[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-23 01:46:42
>>jackfo+mg8
So what evidence would you accept to prove you wrong? I have two injections and didn’t get a heart attack. Millions of people have two injections and didn’t die of heart attacks. If that doesn’t make you hesitate believing what you believe what would? If your answer is “nothing” then you are not being rational.
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