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1. peakab+(OP)[view] [source] 2021-09-19 08:40:09
It's so interesting to me that people can't even imagine that covid could be intentionally created and let out. Not a leak, not an accident.

Is it because people don't understand that actual evil exists outside of movies? That there are extreamly powerful people in the world that will throw babies into fires because they believe in occult entities? This is not imaginary.

We live in a world where very evil people exist in high places, but also a world where many more good people exist, but usually not in as powerful positions.

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2. roenxi+t[view] [source] 2021-09-19 08:45:15
>>peakab+(OP)
If it were evil, they'd have tried harder. Which is also the argument against it being a bioweapon - most pathetic bioweapon ever if it was.
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3. inglor+o1[view] [source] 2021-09-19 09:02:06
>>peakab+(OP)
Both bioweapons and chemical weapons suffer from a deployability problem. Sure, you will cause some harm; perhaps even great harm; but there is no guarantee you will emerge out of the chaos better off than your adversaries.

What did China win so far? Paranoia of the rest of the world and an acute realization of most Western nations that they need to rethink their alliances (see the recent AUKUS story) and their supply chains.

The only active malice scenario I could find plausible would be "a single person or a small cult such as Aum Shinrikyo decided to unleash horror on the world". But in the real world, accidents outnumber crimes by orders of magnitude.

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4. asxd+j2[view] [source] 2021-09-19 09:16:49
>>peakab+(OP)
I think you're right to question authority, but it doesn't seem fair to make the claim that

> "there are extreamly powerful people in the world that will throw babies into fires because they believe in occult entities"

What makes you believe that is in any way prevalant? Maybe I'm an optimist, but it seems hard to believe that throwing babies into fires is considered okay, even at the highest social echelons.

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5. nobody+o4[view] [source] 2021-09-19 09:46:52
>>peakab+(OP)
>Is it because people don't understand that actual evil exists outside of movies? That there are extreamly powerful people in the world that will throw babies into fires because they believe in occult entities? This is not imaginary.

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Everybody knows that babies are too valuable to be thrown into fires. They need to be murdered for their tasty, tasty adrenochrome[0]!

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

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6. inglor+p5[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-19 09:59:20
>>asxd+j2
That is probably an allusion to the ancient cult of Moloch, but that, AFAIK, has died out a long time ago. Romans stamped out human sacrifice really hard. (They themselves used to practice it, but after approx. 100 BCE, they not only stopped, but turned against it and stopped tolerating it among subjugated nations.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch

The closest phenomena we have in modern world is suicidal jihadism, but its practicioners generally cannot be described as extremely powerful, even if they managed to tire out Western powers in Afghanistan.

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7. tgv+S7[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-19 10:35:19
>>roenxi+t
If we’re going evil conspiracy: it could have been an attempt at bringing down the status quo. China very much wants to be top dog, and Mao once replied to the question what he would do if he lost his 100 million soldiers: I’ve got 900 million more.
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8. Maursa+Ai1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-19 20:39:03
>>tgv+S7
> if he lost his 100 million soldiers

While today China has the largest military with 2.8M soldiers, sailors and airmen, Mao had, at best, 50K soldiers in his Red Army.

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9. mmerli+ln1[view] [source] [discussion] 2021-09-19 21:18:28
>>inglor+o1
To be fair, AUKUS is more of a reaction towards China invading other countries territorial waters, creating military bases there, and bullying any other boats (who are simply just working within their own countries waters, or just crossing the Sea that China now claims exclusively as theirs).

Apparently for the past three years their vast 'fishing' fleets are also shining green lasers into the cockpits of passing planes and bridges of passing ships at night, to increase the stress and occupational risks heaped upon the shoulders of each captain/pilot of a non-Chinese boat/plane [1]

Let's also not forget their MASSIVE KNEE JERK REACTION to the Australian PM stating that we needed China to cooperate more with the W.H.O. (scientists attempted to follow the normal discovery process investigating the origins of Covid, but were denied access to dated lab samples from the Wuhan lab [2])

China was so insulted (and/or scared?) by these words that their knee-jerk reaction was to cut off billions of dollars of imports arriving from Australia, temporarily decimating some parts of our wine industry, and rock lobster export industry to China [3]

[1] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-06/chinese-fishing-vesse...

[2] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-tells-who-its-not...

[3] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-10/chinas-trade-war-with...

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